Posts Tagged ‘Stupid lists’

The Essentials

Friday, October 24th, 2008

I sense this one might open a can of worms.

Have you ever put together a list of 'must-have' wrestling dvd's, classic shows that every fan should check out at least once?  It would help with my buying decisions. 
I am interested in actual shows, not so much documentaries or compilations.

 

Well the problem here, of course, is that not everything awesome has been released on DVD to this point, and in fact there are some glaring absences even from the period when WWE started releasing everything they could on DVD. 

Safest bet:  The Wrestlemania Anthology.  A wussy choice, but you get some great stuff and the truly great stuff is generally saved for here anyway 

Stuff that should be released but isn't:

- Showdown at Shea, with Cole & Foley on commentary.  They should seriously archive this in DVD format and release it, because with the comedy commentary it was one of the best shows I've ever seen on WWE 24/7 and I'd buy it in a heartbeat.  Without commentary, it's pretty worthless, though.

- Great American Bash '89.  You can still track down the tape from video stores, I think, but I'm hoping that someday 24/7 shows the full PPV version so I can get a proper copy of it.  This is the definitive NWA show from 1989 and quite probably the best PPV ever put out, featuring ***1/2 - ****1/2 matches up and down the card and some of the most emotional and brutal battles waged in wrestling.  Plus Ricky Steamboat actually carries Lex Luger to a better match than Ric Flair did, I shit you not.  A miracle show in every sense, headlined by Ric Flair v. Terry Funk in a match where the audience completely bought that Funk was so crazy he just might break Flair's neck for fun. 

- No Way Out 2001.  I bang the drum for this one a lot but I'm guessing that we've never getting the full show on DVD for Benoit-related reasons.  Anyway, you can piece together a lot of it on other releases (with Rock-Angle and HHH-Austin as the one-two punch of near-***** matches that headlined) but the shockingly great Stephanie v. Trish match is unlikely to hit DVD any time soon so it'll always be lacking. 

The other problem is that WCW died before they could embrace the DVD era, so most of their major shows are lost to history now.  So what we're left with is "Best WWE shows currently available", I guess.  Unfortunately my enthusiasm for going back and watching a good chunk of the WWE's product from 2000-2007 has been destroyed by Benoit, as I still can't go back and watch his stuff, and I fear that might be permanent since it's been more than a year and there's no signs imminent of me suddenly wanting to watch him again. 

Stuff that's already out on DVD: 

- Wrestlemania X-7.  A no-brainer, as Rock-Austin still feels fresh, TLC is violent fun, and Angle-Benoit rocks the mat.  Something for everyone, including those who love goofy gimmick matches. 

- Royal Rumble 2000, while not a transcendent show, is at least a good representative of the high quality product they were putting out in 2000 and features a ***** main event brawl between HHH and Cactus Jack and the debut of Tazz.  A very fun show.

- Vengeance 2003.  A tragically underrated and forgotten B-show, featuring the best Big Show match ever as goes against Brock and Angle in a triple threat match for the belt, plus Rey & Kidman steal the show against Haas & Benjamin in a tag match that almost needed air traffic controllers.   

- SMW Night of the Legends.  Probably hard to find, but if you're into the old school mentality of Jim Cornette and want to see Chris Jericho stain the ring red with his blood while wrestling with a broken arm, this is the show for you.  Not a great show in a traditional sense of the word, but Meltzer and Cornette on the alternate commentary track is fascinating stuff and it's hard work all around.

- ROH:  Joe v. Kobashi.  I find most of their shows pretty interchangeable to tell the truth, but this not only had a good undercard, but featured what might be one of the greatest matches I've ever seen in the main event.  When Kobashi is pounding on Joe's chest with an endless stream of chops for minutes on end, it goes beyond suspension of disbelief and into a visceral experience you rarely get in the fake world of wrestling these days.

- ECW Barely Legal.  Doubt you can even find the Pioneer release anywhere but Ebay (if even then), but even with the stripped-out music it's still the best PPV introduction to the company for those curious as to why there was such a fuss about them for so long.  I don't think the show holds up at all, to be honest, but thanks to my tape trading days I've seen it upwards of 100 times, so if you've never seen it before it's certainly worth a look. 

The Lounge List: Top Ten Seasons of Friends

Saturday, October 11th, 2008

"Hey Scott, long time reader from the Netcop/Wrestleline days (although EVERYONE puts that). Thought that since everyone is into top 10 lists these days, you'd be interested in doing a different one. In your humble (ha) opinion, how would you rank Friends by season? Believe it or not, I'm even requesting this opinion without the compensation of a plug of the shameless variety."

Hmm, a tough but fair question.

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The Lounge List: Die Hard

Monday, September 15th, 2008

The Lounge List: 8 Laws of Science and Nature Broken By The Die Hard Franchise

Now, I love John McClane as much as the next guy. The original Die Hard trilogy formed an indelible part of my movie-going experience in my teen years, like Back to the Future or the Star Trek movies. And heck, I even really enjoyed Live Free or Die Hard, which I picked up for $10 from Future Shop and felt I had underpaid after seeing it, because it's a tremendously entertaining movie (at least the unrated version is) that strives to go over the top in the quest to make stuff blow up bigger and better in each scene. I can respect that. However, as a human being with a functioning brain, there are some trends in movies (and specifically in the Die Hard movies) that bug the hell out of me and they all seemed to come together in that one two-hour package, inducing groans instead of wows. So although I don't long for a hyper-realistic experience in the cinema, here's eight examples of stuff that happened to John McLane (and other action heroes) that could not possibly occur in real life and that offend me as a former math major.

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Sequels that didn’t suck

Thursday, August 14th, 2008

Scott,

Thanks for posting my email on TDK - have another ranking question for the blog: Where does The Dark Knight matchup as far as great movie sequels?  This could be more of a list question so I might be wording this wrong.  If I were to make a list of Great Franchise Sequels, I'd list them as follows in no particular -

01.) Empire Strikes Back - Star Wars Franchise

02.) Aliens - Alien Franchise

03.) Lethal Weapon 2

04.) Terminator 2

05.) The Matrix Reloaded - Matrix Franchise

06.) Spiderman 2

07.) The Two Towers - Lord of the Rings Franchise

08.) X2: XMen United

09.) The Dark Knight - Batman Franchise

10.) The Godfather II

My Top 4 would be listed as follows -

1.) Empire Strikes Back - the epitome of what a sequel should be: bigger, badder, bolder.  You can tell just by how Darth Vader's helmet glistens in ESB that Lucas said "Ok, this is what I REALLY want to do..." We were given more story and this film was carried on the back of Harrison Ford.  Also, Darth Vader really underscored why he was one of Hollywood's greatest villains.  IMO, this is arguably the standard bearer that all sequels should be compared to...

2.) The Dark Knight - A fantastic crime drama.  Everybody in this film hit a home run w/ their performances and I really wonder if Nolan will EVER be able to make a film better than this. The best Batman movie and the best comic book adaptation brought to cinema. *My biggest question for this email is how do you think it matches up against ESB?*

3.) Spiderman 2 - this film is what really underscored why Spidey fans love Peter Parker's world so much: the everyday problems that we all go through and how having another responsibility can complicate life so much.

4.) The Matrix Reloaded - IMO, the best scifi action film EVER made.  This movie gave me everything I wanted.  W/ ESB as a template, they expanded more on the backstory of the war between humans and machines ; we saw ZION upclose and personified; and we saw some of the best fight and chase scenes that every other action/ scifi film has tried to copy in some variation; and we got a great cliffhanger ending.  A true trendsetter for the early 2000's and beyond...

That's my list, what's yours...

 

Oh man, you're so gonna get roasted by the blog for some of that.  Godfather Part II won the freakin' OSCAR and you'd put Matrix Rebloated over it?

Speaking of the Dark Knight, rather ironic that it's going to pass Star Wars on the all-time list the same weekend that Lucas beats at that dead house one more time with The Clone Wars. 

Anyway, Godfather Part II is one of the greatest movies, of any genre, ever made and is easily my #1 pick for sequels as well.  Dark Knight is all kinds of awesome, but Empire Strikes Back is still above it at #2 because there's a reason why people say "such and such is the Empire Strikes Back of the trilogy".  Then I'd put Dark Knight.  And why is there never any love for James Bond?  From Russia With Love completely defined the Bond franchise and added all the elements that came to be associated with the character from then on. 

Wasted Opportunities

Thursday, August 14th, 2008

Hey Scott--

I know you're probably sick of these kinds of emails, but one of the reasons we read your blog is to get your thoughts on crap like this.

What are some wrestling rivalries you always wanted to see, but never materialized? My mind always goes back to what could have been with Hulk Hogan and Rick Rude circa 1989. Are there any "mark out matches" you never got to see due to politics, real-life animosity, ect.?

 

Rude v. Hogan did happen a few times on the house show circuit and it wasn't anything special.  It's not a really good dynamic anyway -- Hogan's schtick works best against heels who are bigger than him so that he can make the big comeback.  Rude's deal was never the bullying heel, it was the smarmy jerk who you wanted to see get killed. 

I really, really, really should do the Book of Lists for y'all.  Maybe self-publish or something.

Anyway, here's a few off the top of my head...

- Sting v. Ultimate Warrior.  They just never crossed paths, which is a shame because it had all the backstory, star power, and facepaint you would have needed to headline a Wrestlemania. 

- Rick Rude v. Randy Savage.  They used to tear the house down in Memphis (or so I've heard second hand) and it would have been a perfect personality clash in the WWF, but Rude wasn't at the level where he could be taken seriously as a World title challenger in 1988, and by 1992 he was gone. 

- Steve Austin v. Hulk Hogan, 2002.  This one should have happened and was on the fast track but got completely derailed by Hogan's face turn and a truckload of politics.  But man, if you thought the heat for Rock v. Hogan was off the charts, just imagine Hogan hulking up after the stunner.  This one had backstory up the wazoo (they could have played the Steve-a-mania video from ECW!) and the promos would have been legendary.  Oh well.

 

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Scott’s Mailbag of Doom – June 11 2008

Wednesday, June 11th, 2008

Only two questions this time.  Must be a slow week, but that's OK, because I can catch up easier.  And since blockquotes apparently don't work on Insidepulse, I can try new and fun formatting of the letters today. 

First actual question!  At least I think there's a question in it.  And it feels purple to me for some reason. 

Do you really think this million dollar contest is really going to bring back old fans? I personally doubt it, and I dont really want WWE fans to come back just for greed. They will leave as soon as the contest is over, and then it will be back to low numbers.

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Scott’s Mailbag of Doom – June 9 2008

Monday, June 9th, 2008

Thanks to everyone who's offered their help with designing Dungeonofdeath.com -- I'm still 100% sure what I want the site to look like, but I'll get back to y'all when I do.  If anyone sees any sites they think might look good as a template, let me know so I can stea...investigate them. 

On with the mail!

Question #1!

 

Hey Scott,
Love the blog. I have a couple of questions for you.
Firstly, do you know what happened to your old buddy Rick Scaia and his onlineonslaught website?
Secondly a couple of weeks ago you were asked what your though the best year to be a professional wrestling fan was. My question is what do you think the worst years have been? I'd say 2002 and 2007 but you have followed the buisness for longer then I have and I'd be interested in your opinion.

No clue what happened to Rick and OO.com.  The domain expired a couple of months ago and he kind of disappeared. 

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One last list before bed

Wednesday, June 4th, 2008

Hey, Scott, don't know if you remember me.  Michaelangelo, the semi-retired editor of Popcorn Junkies.  Got a question for you. Being from Dallas, I grew up on WCCW, and of course we all remember the XMas match between Kerry Von Erich and Ric Flair.  Terry Gordy slamming the cage door on Kerry's head launched the Von Erich/Freebird feud, one of the greatest feuds in wrestling history.  It got me to thinking about pivotal moments in wrestling, moments that changed the course of the industry, like Hall and Nash showing up in WCW or the Bret/SCSA double turn.  What would be your list of the 10 most pivotal moments in wrestling?  Say, from 1980 on.  Would the cage door make your list?

Well, let's wing it and see.  We'll make it simpler and limit this to storyline "moments" rather than actual industry moments like the first Wrestlemania or Nitro launching. 

  1. Hulk Hogan wins WWF title from Iron Sheik, makes millions for company for years afterwards.
  2. Bret Hart loses fake title to Shawn Michaels in french-speaking city, setting off improbable chain of events that destroys WCW and makes Vince into a billionaire.
  3. Scott Hall shows up on Nitro making vague references to a takeover, creates multimillion dollar merchandise operation as a result.
  4. Terry Gordy slams cage door on Kerry Von Erich, indirectly kills everyone in the family as a result.  And himself.  Years later, Michael Hayes calls someone a bad name and loses his job, having only been winged by the curse.
  5. Sting wins WCW World title from Hulk Hogan, looks like a chump in the process, shattering his mystique and killing their one shot at a superhero character to compete with the WWF. 

A top ONE list!

Wednesday, May 14th, 2008

Aha, now here's one more my speed.

What's the one match that you think gets too much praise from wrestling fans. Conversely, what's the match that doesn't get enough praise?

Most Overrated:

Well I've long felt that UT v. Mankind from KOTR 98 is grossly overrated, but that's beating a dead horse.  I think Flair v. Vader from Starrcade 93 isn't as great as people make it out to be, either.  I mean, it's a pretty great match, but people who buy into it because of the Flair retirement stip and stuff are kind of nuts.  I just could never get emotionally invested in it, but then I fucking hated WCW in 1993 so it's perhaps not a surprise.  Hogan v. Bossman cage match is also vastly overrated, especially by people who are like "OMG, HOGAN'S BEST MATCH EVER!" or shit like that.  I've never been all THAT impressed by it. 

I think, however, the winner by far is Sting v. Flair from the first Clash.  I just don't get why everyone dropped a load in their pants over it.  Sting is completely exposed as green and it's the usual good Flair broomstick match, with a shitty finish. 

First runner up is the original triple threat match from ECW with Douglas v. Funk v. Sabu.  Watching it today, it's painfully obvious how they're stretching out the time and booking little mini-matches within it and such.  Just never liked it, no sir.

Most Underrated:

At this point, I'm gonna go out on the limb and say both Austin v. Michaels matches from the 90s -- King of the Ring 97 and Wrestlemania 14.  Just fascinating stuff, and the WM main event has 10 times the drama when you know what Shawn was going through during the match.  It gives it a whole other level of meaning.  The KOTR was one of those that should have been a classic with better booking behind it and a finish, but just never got a chance. 

Let the sniping begin!