LOST
Holy fucking flaming shitballs.
That’s all I got.
Is it Tuesday yet?
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Totally agree, Tuesday can’t come quick enough. Was a little skeptical at first but the Jack/Locke scene totally won me over…
“I want to go home.”
Uh…. that was the WTF moment for me in the episode.
Won’t say too much more until other people have seen it, but I thought it was pretty good. Nice to see Hurley being more proactive too.
I’ve spent the last six months embedded in a current of spoiler reports. Seriously, I’ve been swept up in a tide of spoiler-heavy shit for weeks on end because I just have no patience. And honestly? I still have no idea WHAT THE FUCK is going on or where ANY of this is headed.
So I’m quitting the spoilers and getting out before I learn any more than I have to, since the mid-way point of the season is as good a place as any to stop. And it lets me finish the series on the same rollercoaster ride as everyone else. And that’s all I really want. Besides, the spoilers are basically just skeletal shit anyway, so no loss. Now, to say I’ve been psyched like a…person who’s psyched…THAT would be a gross understatement. I haven’t been this pumped for a TV show since…probably ever.
Mark-out moment of the entire episode for me, more than “I want to go home” or “It worked” or “It’s good to see you without the chains” was…
“I’m sorry you had to see me that way.”
Fucking superb.
Tuesday really needs to be tomorrow.
Scraped my jaw off the floor this morning to get on with the business of the day, but wow, that was an INCREDIBLE episode.
YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!! Amazing, and I cant wait for next Tuesday…whats ECW?
As of 3 weeks, it’s apparently no more.
*spoiler if you didn’t see LA X*
I want to know where this “alternate reality” is going and what the hell it all means.
Funny that evil Locke (or man in black) was revealed as the smoke monster, yet we still don’t really know much about it or why it is what it is. Only LOST can answer a question and still leave you asking more.
Jacob has now embodied Sayid. Awesome.
I’ve been watching Lost for years and I just don’t understand any of it. I mean, why the alternate universe? Why kill Jacob? If he’s dead why is he still there talking to Hurley? Who is Jacob? What is the smoke monster? Why anything?
I like Hurley, but I keep watching and nothing ever happens. And I mean, Sayid dies because those priests or whatever drown him (and they’re like surprised that drowning someone kills them) but then he comes back to life? And Sayid survives, but Juliette doesn’t (cause she has a job on V).
I just don’t feel like there is ever any payoff. All last season it was about setting off the nuclear bomb, would they or wouldn’t they? But the future you saw with Ben and the Japanese wife and Richard depending on the bomb being set off, anyway?
And why introduce this whole “alternate reality” anyway? Has there ever been a satisfying payoff for anything on this show?
And like, there on this island, and no one notices there’s this temple with a crazy Chinese hippie?
I don’t know how JJ Abrams gets Fringe so right, but Lost so, so, so terribly wrong.
Well, we’ll agree to disagree. LOST is mostly about the journey in my opinion. Also, it’s the type of episodic TV show that the answers are going to mostly come near then end. However, we will probably never get all the answers and that’s fine by me. Leaves more room for geeky discussion. There’s a great show from the late 60s called The Prisoner with Patric McGoghan (sp?), that LOST very blatenly has taken parts or ideas from (and the producers have paid respect to in interviews) that never answered all the questions.
I can answer some of your questions; but why bother. You already don’t like the show. Also, we can’t take anything that happens on this show as “real science”. I’ve read people in other boards criticizing the show because what happened would never happen when a nuc goes off and stuff like that…well, no duh!
The show has done a great job in building characters we care about and that’s more than 99% of tv.
BTW, I love Fringe also, yet that show is even slower than lost in answering questions. WTF with Earth 2 and when are some answers going to come about that?
He is still there talking to Hurley because Hurley talks to dead people.
The priests weren’t trying to drown him (well, not with the effect of killing him)…they were obviously using the same method which saved Bens life and countless others (pun intended)…the process didnt go as planned due to the reasoning behind the water being staind…the had a time piece and everything, so obviously they knew what they were doing and weren’t setting out with the notion that holding him underwater for x amount of time was going to result in his death.
There is always a payoff. Its entitled “”Next Week on ‘Lost’”.
They do what they do because it keeps us guessing, and talking. This is episodic SciFi television at its best. I personally hope that when all is said and done that all the questions have not been answered. Yes, I do want the more important issues dealt with, but I hope that come May 24th that my friends and me can still ask “why?” about certain issues.
The Japanese wife is Sun-Hwa
He is still there talking to Hurley because Hurley talks to dead people.
The priests weren’t trying to drown him (well, not with the effect of killing him)…they were obviously using the same method which saved Bens life and countless others (pun intended)…the process didnt go as planned due to the reasoning behind the water being staind…the had a time piece and everything, so obviously they knew what they were doing and weren’t setting out with the notion that holding him underwater for x amount of time was going to result in his death.
There is always a payoff. Its entitled “”Next Week on ‘Lost’”.
They do what they do because it keeps us guessing, and talking. This is episodic SciFi television at its best. I personally hope that when all is said and done that all the questions have not been answered. Yes, I do want the more important issues dealt with, but I hope that come May 24th that my friends and me can still ask “why?” about certain issues.
The Japanese wife is Sun-Hwa Kwon, and oddly enough she is Korean…
The alternate reality is introduced as a new means of story telling. We have seen flashbacks, flash forwards, and last seasons device of two totally different time periods. This is merely there newest method of storytelling.
The temple was actually mentioned way back in season three…and I think we can finally all agree that the “others” despite there appearances were in fact the Good Guys…unless they change things up again…
I am not trying to rip your comment apart, and I apologize if I seem to do so. It just seems like you may not totally get the whole mosaic that is “Lost”.
Just stick with it for a few more months, and I do believe that when all is said and done you will feel very pleased with the final result.
I only wish that when they finally make a new “Star Trek” series that it can live of to this level of story telling.
Darlton said on Kimmel that Jacob is NOT Sayid.
Only drawback was the lack of Michelle Rodriguez as well as Michael and Walt in the alternate reality, as they were both on the plane.
I hear ya. But having Malcolm David Kelley reprise his role as Walt on 815 would have been a bit tricky given that he’s damn near 18 now. But they could have simply used old footage. Maybe the detonation changed the timeline so that Walt’s mother never died and Michael never gets him back, hence they’re not on 815?
There was an interview with Darlton (Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse) where they talked about the effects of setting off the nuclear bomb and how it changed a lot of stuff (the island is sunk, Hurley isn’t in such a bad way, there’s a spoiler about Kate I’m not going to reveal, and Shannon isn’t on the plane) and I think we’re seeing the fallout from that (pardon the pun about the nuke)
It’s just weird because I’m wondering how, if the bomb went off (and we have to remember, it was a Hydrogen bomb, not a Nuclear bomb – I’d find it even more impossible to believe they aren’t killed if it’d been nuclear), that the present timeline wasn’t erased?
For all intents and purposes, if the detonation *worked* then the timeline with Sun, Richard, Frank, Ilana, Flocke, etc. shouldn’t exist. Unless the detonation didn’t destroy the 2007 timeline but simply created another one. Or my theory, which is that the detonation of the bomb simply caused a dimensional tear, opening us up to a concurrent timeline that always existed, this alternate timeline. This timeline was always there, but the bomb is allowing us to see it and possibly allow the people from the present timeline to interact with it at some point in the future. Notice how after the bomb goes off, it cuts to Jack in 815 and he seems to know something’s up. The detonation of the bomb could be the exact moment that the dimensional fabric was ripped, bleeding into Alt-Jack’s world and giving him a funny feeling of deja vu.
This is also what I feel like the MIB meant when he said “I want to go home.” He’s an interdimensional entity that wound up stuck in the dimension we’ve been seeing for five seasons. Perhaps Jacob can travel dimensions too? Hell, maybe even Walt can do this. He did always “show up in places he wasn’t supposed to be.”
I don’t think my theory is right, but I think elements of it might be.
Have never seen an episode of this show. I’m waiting til the whole thing finishes so I can watch it all at once. All of your completely nonsensical comments make me excited about it
I’m still holding out hope that fake Locke is actually a good guy. Wouldn’t that be one hell of a twist?
To be honest, I’d almost be shocked if that wasn’t the case. The white/black dichotomy almost seems like a red herring that plays upon our expectations of what good and evil are. Of course, there’s still the problem of Floccke being the smoke monster. If he’s good, why murder people in cold blood? (the original 815 pilot, for instance)
Then again, if Jacob is so good, why does his sole purpose seem to be to manipulate people? Man, this season is going to be AMAZING.
I just hope they don’t pull the biggest cop out and somehow bring the real Locke back to life. His life is supposed to be a tragedy. That’s what his flashbacks were all about, how his life never went the way he wanted and how everyone close to him left him or manipulated him in some way.
Besides, I like Evil Locke.
I have seen every episode of this show, as I had with Sopranos.
There is nothing here, they are simply trying to keep viewers from one week to the next. They have created a situation where they can literally put anything on this island, and the diehard fans will accept it and come up with their own theories as to how it is possible.
From that point, this is a brilliant show. However, I am sure we are all going to be disappointed at the end of the season.
Please keep in mind, originally the character of Jack was to be played by Michael Keaton and killed off in the pilot episode. This show is being written on the back of a cocktail napkin, making up twists as it goes along.
That’s just silly. Hollywood is littered with actors that were supposed to play a certain role and someone else got it and changes were made. Wasn’t Tom Selleck supposed to be Indiana Jones?
Yes, originally the script was for Jack to die, but after the network read it, they wanted it changed (for good reason). How exactly that means every subsequent season is being written on the fly is beyond me. It was the pilot, the show hadn’t even been picked up yet.
it’s very obvious that the show is constantly being changed and there is no long term plan. Case in point, Michelle Rodriguez being written out of the show with a DUI, the whole Walt being a focal point not realizing he was going to grow up to look like Patrick Ewing.
I’m not saying the show is bad. I’m interested in it like you guys. I just think the finale is going to leave so much unanswered and nonsensical. That’s all.
I feel pretty much the same. I really enjoy the show, but I am completely cynical concerning it’s long term plan.
I think the creators know full well they can throw absolutely anything out there, and the hardcore fans will just say “Oh, Sayid was actually the polar bear? Yes, this fits with my theory of BLAH BLAH BLAH, this blows my mind!!!”
There certainly are a lot of apologists for some of the stuff that goes on on LOST; but you have to give credit (not that you’re not) to a show that has that kind of ability. The universe they’ve created is pretty fantastic where even shifts in the direction of the show can still be shoehorned into the overall mythos.
However, to say that no planning has occurred is being a bit narrow minded. Of course they knew Walt was going to grow up and grow up fast. That’s why they had it planned for him to leave the island. I’m I 100% satisfied with his story arch ending (if indeed it’s over), not really; but ultimately, it wasn’t the main part of the show. The main focus has always been on the Jack and John characters.
Im sure some of the show was written short handedly (Im looking at you Eko!!!), but I’m sure they thought about how all of the changes fit into the overall arch of the story.
Sure, the DUIs happened, but I dont think Ana Lucia and Libby really fit into the overall story – they both died, and it gave Hurley something to be sad about, annnnnd it gave some Michael to kill to show how passionate he was about saving his son. They EPs already said Libby was in the mental institution because her husband died – it was fate that brought her to the same institution that Hurley was in. And if you can’t get behind fate just bringing things together, then you really shouldn’t fucking be watching this show.
Obviously the show is going to leave things unanswered, but I’m confident that the more important character related things will be answered – sure, we may not find out what causes the island to time travel (midichlorians anyone?)…but I’m CONFIDENT (not positive) that the show will end in a mostly satisfying manner.
As long as the ending doesn’t involve aliens, I’m fine.
My feelings about the whole “explain why the island does what it does in explicit detail” is summed up in a Patton Oswalt quote: “I don’t care about where the things I love come from, they’re just the things I love!” Honestly, I’m much more interested in lots of other things, though I wouldn’t mind knowing why Walt was important and that seems insignificant.
Well, in terms of “outer space aliens”, I highly doubt it, but obviously the two big good and evil characters on the island (Jacob and Man in Black) aren’t totally human…