Oddly enough, I never did an actual rant on this show last year, so with it airing on WWE 24/7 it seems like a good enough time to revisit it.
- Live from Orlando, FL.
- Your hosts are JR, King, Cole, yada yada.
Belfast Brawl: JBL v. Finlay
I originally watched the show at the movie theater, and the first time that the open air stadium was shown, there was a gasp from the crowd. It's a tad less impressive on the small screen (and cropped to 4 x 3) but still an amazing sight. Quite the opposite of amazing is the video package that sets this up, highlighting 2 minutes of a retarded storyline involving a midget being the illegitimate son of Vince McMahon. JBL attacks to start and boots him down on the floor, but Finlay sends him into the stairs and they head into the ring. Finlay goes right for the plunder, but takes a garbage can in the head as a result. JBL brings the stairs in, but can't get a piledriver on them, as Finlay fires back with the dreaded COOKIE SHEET OF DEATH. That gets two. JBL boots him down again and fires away in the corner with his weak-ass shots, but Hornswoggle gets involved and distracts him. Finlay clubs JBL out of the ring and goes for a table, but can't whip JBL into it. JBL goes out and smacks the midget around, which draws Finlay out for some brawling on the floor, but he dives at JBL and hits a trashcan lid instead. Back in, JBL gets two. He stops to chuck the trashcan at Hornswoggle (and really, who doesn't want to?), but Finlay comes back with more lids. Finlay gets the fireman's carry roll and then sends JBL into the table, but that only gets two. JBL whacks him in the knee with the kendo stick and finishes with the lariat at 9:11, however. And from this we got an endless JBL push that endures to this day. Standard harmless family-friendly "hardcore" match. **1/2
Money In The Bank: John Morrison v. MVP v. CM Punk v. Chris Jericho v. Carlito v. Shelton Benjamin v. Mr. Kennedy
Everyone runs for the ladders to start and MVP steals one and fights off the rest with it. Smart guy. He has a jousting match with Jericho and loses that, but Morrison brings a ladder to the top and then moonsaults everyone else to the floor with it! You'd think physics would be working against you there, too. Kennedy makes the first climb and Jericho stops him and catapults him into the ladder, but that just allows him to climb up easier. Morrison heads up as well and they slug it out, leading to Benjamin joining them for a Tower of Doom spot off the ladder. Carlito tries dumping Shelton off the ladder, but he walks the ropes to block before toppling off anyway. Punk's turn next, but Shelton hauls him off, only to get caught with a GTS. Kennedy hits Punk with a fireman's carry roll onto a ladder to get rid of him, and then MVP kicks Kennedy out. Carlito takes out MVP with a ladder to the knee and climbs for it, but Shelton brings him down and spinkicks him. Shelton climbs, but Kennedy and Carlito tip over the ladder and Shelton takes a flat back bump out of the ring onto a ladder, which is a batshit crazy spot that I hate to see. Morrison clears the ring and climbs for it, but Jericho stops him with the Walls of Jericho on top of the ladder. Kennedy uses that moment to climb himself, but soon we've got four guys slugging it out on top, and they all go down. So everyone's dead and MVP goes for it…but Matt Hardy runs out of the crowd an takes him out with a Twist of Fate off the ladder. You'd think Matt would have climbed and taken the briefcase, but he ended up as ECW champion anyway so he did OK. In retrospect, this was the start of a REALLY bad year for poor MVP. Jericho drops Carlito on a pair of crossed ladders in a weird, contrived spot, allowing Morrison to climb up before getting dumped out, as we whittle away the contenders. Jericho climbs and gets an apple in the face from Carlito, but Kennedy gets rid of Carlito. Punk takes him out with a mini-ladder, but Jericho gets a Codebreaker to get rid of Punk. But Punk isn't that easy to kill, as he climbs up and fights it out with Jericho on top of the ladder. Jericho hits Punk with the case, but gets hung up in the ladder and Punk wins Money in the Bank at 13:56. And obviously that worked out quite well for him. I wasn't really blown away by this, as it seemed to be spot-setup-spot-setup-spot without any real connecting thread, but then with 7 guys in there it's nearly impossible to do anything but a series of one-on-one vignettes. ***1/2
Umaga v. Batista
The Battle for Brand Supremacy! Which is funny considering that Batista switched brands right after this. Batista powers Umaga out of the ring, but walks into a leg lariat back in the ring. A big boot puts Batista on the floor. Back in, big splash gets two. Umaga whips him into the corner and yells a lot, as samoans are wont to do, and they do a lazy slugfest to set up the NERVE PINCH OF DEATH from Umaga. C'mon, this is the BATTLE FOR BRAND SUPREMACY, put some effort into it. Umaga goes up and misses a headbutt by a mile, but Batista can't slam him. Too bad, because if he had, well, I don't need to tell you how that might have affected the supremacy of the brands. So it's back to the neck massage as Batista will if nothing else be thoroughly relaxed by the end of the match, and Umaga gets a samoan drop for two. Batista, and by extension ALL OF SMACKDOWN, makes the comeback as fans sarcastically do the "boo/yay" thing, actually cheering Umaga because Batista sucks so much here. Batista comes back with a spinebuster and thank god, finishes with the demon bomb at 7:07, even managing to fuck that up. SMACKDOWN REIGNS SUPREME. Well now I can sleep at night knowing that. 1/2*
ECW World title: Chavo Guerrero v. Kane
Chavo gets the ignominious honor of breaking SD Jones' 9 second loss record, as he mouths off to Kane and gets chokeslammed and pinned to give Kane the ECW World title at 0:03.
Ric Flair v. Shawn Michaels
Shawn puts him down off a headlock and teases a strut, but thinks better of it. Flair tries a hammerlock and Shawn reverses, but Flair takes him down with a drop toehold. They continue with the hammerlock until Flair hiptosses out of it. Shoving match in the corner and Shawn gives him a slap for his troubles, so Ric fires back with the chops. They exchange those until Shawn puts his head down and gets booted, and Flair follows with the back elbow and drops the knee. Flair charges and gets elbowed down, but Shawn goes up and gets slammed off. Flair goes up as well and gets a high cross for two, then follows with a kneecrusher, but Shawn boots him out of the ring. He follows with a baseball slide and tries a moonsault press off the apron, but misses and takes out the announce table instead. Back in, Flair takes over and whips him into the corner and gets a backdrop suplex for two. Butterfly suplex gets two. Delayed vertical suplex gets two. Shawn fights back with chops and a neckbreaker, and he backdrops Flair onto the floor. He follows with a moonsault to the floor that misses by a foot, and back in Flair takes over.
They trade chops with the crowd clearly booing Shawn now, and Shawn gets the flying forearm and kips up. Flying elbow and Shawn sets up for the superkick, but hesitates and gets put in the figure-four as a result. Shawn reverses to escape and they try one last pinfall reversal sequence, but Flair just can't do it anymore. To me, that was the saddest part. Shawn with a sunset flip for two. Flair whips him into the corner and clips the knee, but Shawn cradles off the figure-four attempt for two. Flair gets another one and pulls Shawn into the middle of the ring, but he fights and makes the ropes. Flair stops to style and profile, and walks into the superkick as a result. Shawn gets two off that. Shawn sets up again, but this time Flair goes low and gets two. Shawn comes back with an inverted figure-four, but Flair makes the ropes and thumbs him in the eye. Rollup gets two. Flair chops him again, but Shawn fires back with a superkick on instinct and Flair is done. But he sets up one more time and we get the now-famous "I'm sorry and I love you", and the superkick ends Flair's career at 20:23.
I still don't think it's that great of a match, although the storyline argument is an entirely different one. Outside of the obvious missed spots, the thing that really bugs about the match is that I didn't ENJOY it. The best matches for me are joyous ones, with two guys beating each other up for a grudge or the joy of combat or a title. This was a sad occasion, the greatest wrestler in history being forced to go out on someone else's terms long after he should have made that decision himself, and it brought me no joy. Yeah, it was good for the most part, but would 1989 Flair have watched this and wanted to go out in a match where he couldn't even bridge up on the pinfall reversal spot? ***1/4
Playboy Bunny Lumberjack match: Ashley Massaro & Maria v. Beth Phoenix & Melina
Ashley and Maria both look ridiculous here, especially Ashley who looks like 60 pounds of human being and 20 pounds of silicon. Beth slugs it out with Ashley to start and Ashley can't even bump into the corner properly. Maria comes in and tosses Melina, and back in for a broncobuster for two. Ashley comes in with a headscissor takedown and they do a messy collision in the corner, which gives Melina two. Ashley goes out and gets beat up by the other women, and back in for a bearhug from Phoenix. Melina moonsaults off Beth's shoulders for two. Maria comes back in as the lights go out, thus boosting this match * instantly because we can't watch it. I bet Vince was blowing a gasket backstage. Beth with the double-arm chickening on Maria, but Maria reverses to a bulldog for two. Beth and Melina collide in the dark to get rid of Melina, and Maria bulldogs Beth for two. Santino breaks it up, so Jerry Lawler punches him out for an angle that didn't go anywhere, but Beth finishes Maria with the fisherman's suplex at 5:58. Thus begins the glorious tale of GLAMARELLA! 1/4* Snoop Dogg clotheslines Santino, however, on behalf of the honor of bitches and ho's the world over.
RAW World title: Randy Orton v. John Cena v. HHH
John Cena's drumline entrance is pretty cool. See, the excitement over Orton challenging for HHH's title at WM25 is tempered somewhat by the fact that he was defending that very title here already, so it's not like it's any new thing for him. Three-way slugfest to start and HHH clears the ring, then brawls with Orton over to the tables. Back in, HHH grabs the MAIN EVENT SLEEPER, but Cena breaks it up with an FU attempt. HHH stops that with a low blow, allowing Orton to hit him with the neckbreaker and pound away on the mat. We get an epic DOUBLE GARVIN STOMP as Orton shows the charisma and talent that have given him a push for so goddamned long that we all just want to claw our own eyes out. Orton goes up and Cena follows, but HHH assists with a Doomsday Device on Cena. Cena rolls through on Orton with an FU attempt, but Orton cradles for two and HHH takes them both out. Orton recovers first and gets the DDT on both guys. He's coiled like a snake! Or a huge shit, whatever. Cena comes back with the necksnap and goes up with the fameasser, but Orton heads out of the ring to escape. He suckers Cena into a chase and sends him into the ringpost, but HHH attacks Orton on the way back in. HHH goes for the knee, but stops to go after Cena again and walks into an RKO. Cena takes Orton down for the STFU, but even yelling "TAP!" doesn't entice him to do so, and he makes the rope. Possibly like a snake, I'm not sure. HHH gets rid of Cena again and continues on Orton with an Indian deathlock, but Cena quickly breaks that up. Back to the STFU, which looks really lame thanks to a closeup of how gently Cena is holding it, and HHH breaks it up and puts Cena into a crossface instead. Cena makes the ropes, however, as the crowd has now moved to openly booing him. They do the boo/yay bit as per contractual obligation, but Cena makes the comeback with a shoulderblock and powerbomb. Five knuckle shuffle and FU, but HHH reverses out and clotheslines him. Spinebuster and KICK WHAM PEDIGREE gets two, but Orton kicks HHH in the head and pins Cena to retain at 14:08. What an anticlimactic finish. The Cena v. HHH portions felt epic and WM-like and Orton just sucked the fun out of it. ***1/4 It was pretty forgettable overall and HHH winning the belt a month later rendered it all pretty pointless anyway.
Floyd Mayweather v. Big Show
Even after the video packages and a year of perspective, I STILL don't get what the point of this match even was or who I was supposed to be cheering for. The buildup makes Show look like a bullying heel and Mayweather like a plucky athlete, but at the actual show you've suddenly got Mayweather as a preening heel and Show as a serious babyface. Show chases Mayweather around and they do some boxing, which Mayweather gets the best of. Floyd stops for a drink from his Holy Grail, so Show beats up one of his posse to make a point. Show finally gets his hands on Mayweather, but Floyd jumps on for an attempt at a sleeper. Show goes down, which is so ridiculous that the crowd has to boo it, so Show takes him down and stomps the hand. He steps on Mayweather in the corner while the cornerman is all "He can't be doing that! He can't be stepping on him!" You tell him! Show with a sideslam and headbutt. That's enough for Mayweather and he bails out, but Show fights off the handlers and drags him back to the ring for the chokeslam, but one of the nameless horde breaks it up with a chair. Mayweather beats Show down with the chair, hits him low, and knocks him out with brass knuckles at 11:32. Total freakshow, and Mayweather was never seen in WWE again. **
Smackdown World title: Edge v. Undertaker
Edge slugs away in the corner to start, but walks into a clothesline and ends up on the floor. He necksnaps Edge on the way back in and pounds him with elbows in the corner, but runs into a boot. He comes back with a clothesline for two and starts working on the arm, but Edge counters Old School. Taker chokes him out in the corner and hits a running knee, but hurts himself in the process and bumps to the floor. Edge spears him off the apron and into the railing, which is pretty impressive considering how far that railing is from the ring. Edge follows with a baseball slide and pounds away on the floor. Back in, he gets a shoulderblock in the corner and stomps UT down, but Taker tosses him and follows with the tope con hilo. Back in, the legdrop on the apron gets two. Taker goes for the powerbomb, but the back gives way and Edge boots him down for two. They fight to the floor and Edge dumps Taker into the front row, and then back in for a half-crab. Taker counters for two, but Edge turns it back into a leglock. Taker fights up and they slug it out to wake up the crowd, and Taker wins that and gets a pair of corner clotheslines and Snake Eyes. Edge comes back with a dropkick, however, and gets two. They fight over a chokeslam and Edge turns it into the Impaler for two. Another series of counters and Taker gets the chokeslam for two. He goes up and Edge blocks, then brings him down with a superplex for two. He stupidly slugs away in the corner and Taker tries the Last Ride off that, but Edge counters out with a neckbreaker for two. Taker tries again and gets it this time, but only gets two. So it's Tombstone time, but Edge reverses to the Edge-O-Matic for two. They collide and Taker goes Old School, but the ref gets bumped and Edge gets an inverted DDT. Edge lays the badmouth on him and Taker tries a chokeslam, so Edge kicks him in the nuts and grabs his trusty handheld camera. Sadly, even with an awesome finisher like that, the ref is still out, so Edge tries a Tombstone instead and UT reverses to his own. Charles Robinson streaks out at record speed to count two, winning Wrestlemania MVP for the night. Edge's goons follow him out and promptly get destroyed by Undertaker, but that allows Edge to get the spear for two. Another one hits, but Taker wraps him up in the Google Platypus and Edge taps away the belt at 23:51. Started slow but turned into a heapin' helpin' of hot near-falls and reversal drama, making for a worthy close to the show. ****1/4
The Pulse
Sorry, kids, but this one just didn't hold up for me. It may have worked well in the moment as a Big Event, but there's just no substance here or truly memorable stuff outside of the retirement of Flair, and the matches weren't that great. I'd have to rank this one a lot lower than it looked like it was going to be right afterwards. Plus Flair v. Michaels is available on the Flair DVD and Edge had a bunch of better matches with Undertaker later in the year anyway.
Tags: 24/7, Edge, HHH, John Cena, Randy Orton, Undertaker, Wrestlemania, WWE
A completely underwhelming show. The triple threat should have, first of all, not been a triple threat, and about 10 minutes longer. The weakest money-in-the-bank yet, coupled with a Flair-HBK match that I remember for Shawn’s sick bumps, not the storyline or match itself–all with a lame undercard makes this show utterly forgettable. The main event was okay, though.
Plus, outside shows are just weird to me.
Anyone else notice how similar last year’s card is to this year’s? The MITB features many of the same guys. There’s a triple threat title match. FOUR of the same guys that were in last year’s title matches are there again this year. HBK v Taker’s streak is just a new version on last year’s HBK v Flair’s career angle and the Jericho/Rourke celebrity stuff is comparable with Show/Mayweather. There seems to be a serious lack of new ideas.
This show also highlighted two mistakes that i’m disappointed they’re repeating this year. One is the number of people in the MITB match. Any more than six and the thing just becomes a mess. The other is triple-threat title matches. They may be ok for a throwaway PPV like Backlash or No Mercy, but not Wrestlemania where they always seem anti-climatic.
Why the hate for Orton? He’s clearly the best thing in the company right now, and was awesome in that match.
The finish wasn’t anti-climatic. It was the perfect way to put over Orton’s character as it pretty much summed up who he was.
STILL don’t get what the point of this match even was
To make money. They thought Mayweather wrestling would bring in a lot of buys, especially with the Trump angle doing so well at WM XXIII.
or who I was supposed to be cheering for.
Big Show obviously. They changed the face/hell structure midway through when they realised everyone Mayweather.
I also found the Orton hate to be a bit unfair.
That said, I could not stop laughing at it, and would like to see more in the future!
Though I can’t help but feel that, in his current feud with Triple H, HE should be the champion and HHH should be challenging. Orton has nothing to gain by provoking the man who (first) put Cactus Jack out of the business.
Mayweather brought in no buys. Wrestling fans don’t follow boxing and had no clue who he was. They also don’t watch Dancing with the Stars, and man, talk about having something so homoerotic on your resume that nobody will ever pay attention to your involvement in wrestling. The show had a steep drop from WM23 in business.
The angle would’ve been fine if they had brought in a huge UFC star. Big Show vs. Couture would’ve sold PPVs.
Orton really needed that win as it gave him main event legitimacy. His first World title run lasted one month and was a flop. His second lasted about 20 minutes. His third was built up nicely but winning against HHH and Cena made him a bona fide main eventer. Bear in mind this was the first time Cena had been cleanly pinned on PPV since 2004 (I think). Sadly, I can’t see HHH doing the job at this year’s Wrestlemania, even though Orton’s done a truckload for him.
What is weird to me is that 8-10 years i was a serious smark who was all about workrate blah blah blah. After leaving the product from 2005-2007 i found that i enjoyed this show and that i like Randy Orton’s character and his matches. I’m finally able to watch matches and enjoy them as entertainment and not sit there deconstructing workrate and such. I don’t mean that as a knock to anyone, i’m just saying. It works for me.
I completely agree with you. Just recently I decided “fuck it, the product is never going to be what it used to be” and I just started trying to watch as a fan, not as someone who picks apart every little thing. Seriously, it sucks the fun right out of it. If I’m going to watch it, I want to enjoy it, even if it may not be the way I enjoyed the Attitude Era or enjoy the tapes I watch of the 80s and early 90s stuff. If I sit there and think about workrate, and pushes, and booking, then I’m never going to enjoy it anyway. It’s better to try to get into the characters and storylines (bland as they can be), or else why even watch at all?
I think someone here echoed this sentiment before but they haven’t had any kind of “first time” heavyeight championship winner at WM since Mysterio’s triple threat win (22) and before that the Batista/Cena wins from 21. This will be three years running now.
I thought this was odd, re-watching the triple threat on 24/7. Orton hits his neckbreaker early and Jim Ross calls it an inverted atomic drop. WTF? Am I wrong here or is that not even close.
I don’t think anyone needs to rewatch it to say that a neckbreaker is not anywhere near an inverted atomic drop.
Rey’s title reign was a complete train wreck. He lost SO many non-title matches CLEAN in that horrible train wreck of a title reign that we were all begging for it to end (probably including Rey.)
I’m sure they have learned their lesson about giving people title reigns who are untested in the main event scene and using the grandest stage of them all to do it. It’s like the NFL draft the teams are hesistant to draft a Quarterback as the #1 pick. You never know if he’ll be a bust or not. There’s been many busts as World Heavyweight Champion in its history (Mysterio, Great Khali and Angles reign wasn’t that great either.) The main events at Wrestlemania is the highlight of the Immortals and is for established main event stars to show what they got. Money in the Bank is for the up-and-coming main event stars. So, they can win the title at some event of lesser importance.
I think Rey would make a good champion now since he’s been on the Raw upper middle to main event status. He was a horrible champion in 2006 and I was very pleased that the championship went to the very deserving King Bookah.
Wait a second, Great Khali won the World Title?
Yup, right after that whole unpleasantness with Chris Benoit. The company found themselves insisting to the media that they were not encouraging/strongly suggesting their workers to bulk up, while putting the World Title on the biggest guy they could find.
Made perfect sense, I thought.
The main eventers have been exactly the same for the last five years now. HHH, Cena, Orton, Edge, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Batista and, occasionally, Chris Jericho. The problem is that all these guys have wrestled each other so often that the main event scene has grown incredibly stale. 2009 really must be the year when new faces are given the chance to move up and challenge for major titles. The problem is though, i don’t see any of the top guys relinquishing their spot. None of them look likely to retire in the near future. I’d love to see guys like Shelton Benjamin, Christian, Jack Swagger, CM Punk, John Morrison and MVP given proper feuds against some of the top guys, and come out on top. But i just don’t see it happening.
The best description I ever heard for Cena’s version of the STF is the Cena Cuddle. I can’t help but think that I might even be able to take that version of the move when I see it.
We all were spoiled with the plethora of technical wrestlers around the main events 5-6 years ago. Angle, Benoit, Lesnar, Guerrero, as well as Regal who was the best with that move. Cena just looks bad doing technical moves after the likes of them.
Agreed. Cena’s look and everything screams “powerhouse, power move brawler” and there is absolutely nothing wrong with thtat. But I guess since Batista is a more powerhouse looking wrestler, they wanted to make Cena into something that he’s not: a well-rounded technical wrestler. The STF is not Cena’s style and just seems out of place, really, in his matches.
For some reason that gives me a mental image of John Cena doing the Zach Galifianakis “The Snuggler” character from Tim and Eric Awesome Show: Great Job. I don’t know if I like that mental image.
Maybe I’m the only one who thinks this, but they should just end the MITB matchesat WM. I understand them having it the 1st and 2nd time around, but its a gimmick match. Gimmick matches should be limited at WM, and I dont think having the match every year is a good idea at WM. Maybe having it at No Way Out or Backlash would be better.
While I agree with your logic, I actually think the WWE has done a fantastic job of establishing the Money in the Bank match into something legitimate and prestigious. The first year it was clearly a match made just to throw a bunch of upper midcarders that they had nothing planned for into a match together. And it was clear they didn’t even know what they wanted to do with the briefcase after Edge won it. But with each winner actually winning the title — and in three out of four cases, the person was a first time champion — it’s become something worthwhile and special.
I agree. The Mania template these days seems to be:
1. World title(s) match(es)
2. MITB match
3. Some lame battle royal
4. A celeb/special feature match (this year to be Jericho vs. probably a disappointment)
5. Undertaker vs. (your name here)
Yeah, but when’s the last time we had a BAD WrestleMania show?
WM18 sucked. WM22 was a pretty good show but really lacked that Mania feeling. After 19’s tickets sold so badly they held off on stadiums for awhile and I think it hurt the shows. The 10/20/30/40 and so on always should be at MSG but other than that they should avoid basketball arenas for Mania. Staples Center was so dead for WM21 and they were getting a killer show.
You forgot the obligatory Diva Bathroom Break Match.
The WWE Hall of Fame Induction Introduction.
And some sort of backstage skit involving WWE Legends Past.
I like that idea; make it one of the co-mains at Backlash or NWO (maybe just Backlash, since NWO already has the chambers).
I loved this show when I saw it (probably because me and my buddy smoked enough pot to kill a horse) but it really fell flat upon rewatching. In fact, the match I liked the most the 2nd time around was the Money in the Bank since it was just a bunch of young guys, and Jericho, just let it hanging out and trying to pop the crowd. No harm there, though I agree the concept is wore out.
Flair/HBK was much better the first time because of the emotion involved. Whether it was too late for Flair or whatever, it was still an awesome moment if not a wrestling match.
For a boxing fan like me, I love the Mayweather stuff. The problem, as with the Orton 3way, was the booking. Mayweather was born to be heel, he is boxing’s #1 star because boxing fans hate him for being an arrogant prick in real life…and the WWE tried to make him the face. They figured it out and the match was fun…they just f’ed up the promotion of it by making Floyd the good guy so no one cared.
Lastly…Edge is a wrestling God. That crowd was dead silent, ready to re-enact the Toronto crowd from WrestleMania 18 (the crowd came to see Flair, end of story) and he dragged the Undertaker to an awesome match.
Undertaker stepped up his pep to match Edge in the later matches but man was I almost believing Edge could get that crucial streak ending win. That should’ve solidified Edge in anyone’s mind. Crowd sucked, not as bad as 21 but they sucked.
Weed and alcohol can make *ANY* wrestling show great. My buddies and I smoked a shit ton of weed and watched Souled Out 97, all of a sudden Eric Bischoff making out with fat chicks was hi-larious.
Google Platypus, LOL…
The dumb thing about the Hunter vs Orton fight is this…
1) Orton took out all the McMahons. In other words; Randy did what no other face, including Stonecold could do – destroy the McMahons. The McMahons you will remember are heels (or babyfaces who come off as heels). So why should any fan be upset with the guy??
2) Triple H went to Orton to offer the match, and Randy made a great point. He can just as easily go after the other title.
Of course Huntor made some lame point of Randy than not able to “stick it to Hunter”, if he did that. Dumb thing is; he would of have. Cause it’s Huntor who wants to fight Randy. Randy could of gotten under his skin by going after another title.
3) Since the idea of the angle is “us fans wanting to see Huntor beat up Randy”, but we saw how much easier it is for Huntor to just break into Randy’s home. Why need the match??
4) We’ve seen this match a zillion times. It ends with Huntor winning. it would be so nice to see Randy win, and than the MITB winner comes out and defeats “the unstoppable” Orton. (Be cool if CM Punk is the MITB winner, though Christian is acceptable too.)
Or Edge, who loses earlier in the night, beats up Kofi, and wins MITB. Than beats Orton (again).
That would be classic (and a good excuse for Kofi to turn heel out of frustration from being too nice)!
Another thought on the McMahons. Notice how Linda isn’t involved!
As we know she’s trying to get on some sort of school board at the state level. This is usually how many politicians start off (yes, I do think she wants to become a politician). This just exposes how lousy the WWE is seen outside of wrestling fans, when Linda joins Mickey Rouke in avoiding being on WWE TV.
I was at the show, so I am impartial. In person it trully was a sight to see. The Citrus Bowl is an old dump in a bad neighborhood, but WWE made it look like a million bucks. As far as the show goes, it wasnt the best or worst WM, but it will always be remembered for the Flair match. I dont think the match was as great as it was made out to be, but Flair not being able to do the reversal, actually fit the story they were telling. I dont think Big Show has ever been as “over” as he was at WM24. WWE is getting predictable, but when you have come up with as much as they do(PPV’s, Raws, Smackdowns) it’s understandable.
The show had a weird feeling to it rewatching it because the live crowd was really into Money in the Bank, Flair/HBK and the Big Show match. But they were quiet and/or burnt out for the beginning of the two World title matches. Especially the Undertaker/Edge match, I mean they went crazy for the Big Show match and were DEAD silent for the beginning of the Taker match. That’s why I give Edge so much credit for making the crowd think he had a chance in hell of winning.
Regardless, they should’ve put Flair/HBK on last. That’s what everyone wanted to see, the match that got a ridiculous amount of mainstream press in the south, that was the real main event (a la Rock/Hogan at WM 18) and it was clearly want the people in the crowd came to see.
By that same criteria, I think Shawn/Taker would be best suited to go on last this year. The Internet workrate smarks seem to be the most excited about that one. But way more importantly, you know that the TEXAS crowd is going to be way more into it than any other match. I’m not saying that both guys will get Austin-at-X7 reactions, but the pops will at least be in the same ballpark (especially for Taker). If they don’t put it on last, the crowd will be completely burnt out for the remaining matches a la Rock/Hogan and Flair/Shawn.
“Edge had a bunch of better matches with Undertaker later in the year anyway.”
You’re entitled to your opinion Scott, but pray tell me where these “bunch of better matches” took place because I don’t remember seeing them. Only match that came close to their wrestlemania classic was their HIAC match which, after repeated viewing, was ludicrously overrated by the IWC. I mean no blood in a HIAC match? WTF?