Comments on: The Day The Kayfabe Died http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/24/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/ Dungeon of Death: Chris Benoit and the Hart Family Curse is available NOW! Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:28:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Aussiesmurf http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/24/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/comment-page-1/#comment-458726 Aussiesmurf Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:02:50 +0000 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/#comment-458726 For me, it was the Wrestlemania IV title tournament, where EVERY match worked out perfectly so that faces always faced heels. I also noticed that with pins, the wrestler on the bottom until '2', and then would magically resuscitate and kick-out. In my 'matches' with friends, you would be wriggling and struggling straight away.. For me, it was the Wrestlemania IV title tournament, where EVERY match worked out perfectly so that faces always faced heels.

I also noticed that with pins, the wrestler on the bottom until ‘2′, and then would magically resuscitate and kick-out. In my ‘matches’ with friends, you would be wriggling and struggling straight away..

]]> By: -E- http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/24/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/comment-page-1/#comment-458700 -E- Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:59:02 +0000 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/#comment-458700 My Dad loved wrestling, he had grown up in the same town that Whipper Billy Watson lived in and he and his friends got to know him and help set up the ring and what not for the Toronto shows. He even wrestled a handful of times in the old Toronto territory under different masked gimmicks ("Dr X" and awesome jobber names like that). He never outright explained things to me, but always encouraged me not to take it too seriously. My Dad loved wrestling, he had grown up in the same town that Whipper Billy Watson lived in and he and his friends got to know him and help set up the ring and what not for the Toronto shows. He even wrestled a handful of times in the old Toronto territory under different masked gimmicks (”Dr X” and awesome jobber names like that).

He never outright explained things to me, but always encouraged me not to take it too seriously.

]]> By: rockbmg1 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/24/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/comment-page-1/#comment-458695 rockbmg1 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:16:01 +0000 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/#comment-458695 Yeah, I voted on wwe.com for Festus for the preview match about 15 times. As far as Kayfabe breaking for me...on doubt...watching Earl Hebner's insanely slow counts to end a match. During a near-fall it was normal cadence, but when, say, Bad News Brown hit that Ghetto Blaster, we'd get the 1................................2......................................3! But, it is still damn entertaining to watch, so I stick with it. Yeah, I voted on wwe.com for Festus for the preview match about 15 times.

As far as Kayfabe breaking for me…on doubt…watching Earl Hebner’s insanely slow counts to end a match. During a near-fall it was normal cadence, but when, say, Bad News Brown hit that Ghetto Blaster, we’d get the 1…………………………..2………………………………..3!

But, it is still damn entertaining to watch, so I stick with it.

]]> By: Johnny C http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/24/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/comment-page-1/#comment-458687 Johnny C Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:35:10 +0000 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/#comment-458687 Sorry, totally off-topic, has ANYONE here voted on ANY of the Cyber Sunday matches? Sorry, totally off-topic, has ANYONE here voted on ANY of the Cyber Sunday matches?

]]> By: SHough610 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/24/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/comment-page-1/#comment-458620 SHough610 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:30:34 +0000 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/#comment-458620 My dad told me wrestling was fake all the time (one of my best friend's Dad did as well), it doesn't mean he didn't take me to shows before I was old enough to drive. Hell, my MOM took me to IYH: Cold Day in Hell when I was 11... ON MOTHERS DAY because my dad's dad had had a heart attack and he couldn't take me. Now that is a hell of a mom. My dad told me wrestling was fake all the time (one of my best friend’s Dad did as well), it doesn’t mean he didn’t take me to shows before I was old enough to drive.

Hell, my MOM took me to IYH: Cold Day in Hell when I was 11… ON MOTHERS DAY because my dad’s dad had had a heart attack and he couldn’t take me. Now that is a hell of a mom.

]]> By: mjg283 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/24/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/comment-page-1/#comment-458617 mjg283 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 05:37:38 +0000 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/#comment-458617 I don't think I ever thought it was real. The fakeness of it was drummed into me by family and friends from the very beginning. One moment that does sort of stand out was the 1991 Survivor Series. Before that event, a friend somehow got wind of what the results would be (apparently through a hotline or something) and proceeded to win a nice sum of money "betting" on the outcomes with another friend. I don’t think I ever thought it was real. The fakeness of it was drummed into me by family and friends from the very beginning. One moment that does sort of stand out was the 1991 Survivor Series. Before that event, a friend somehow got wind of what the results would be (apparently through a hotline or something) and proceeded to win a nice sum of money “betting” on the outcomes with another friend.

]]> By: samoaray25 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/24/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/comment-page-1/#comment-458613 samoaray25 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:58:19 +0000 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/#comment-458613 Jeez, did any of us have dads who actually nutured our love of our fake sport? I'm having a cats in the cradle moment here. I got my first idea that something was amiss when reading the WWF magazine back in 87 and it listed Vincent Kennedy McMahon Jr as the company owner in the annual publication/circulation statement that has published in the magazine by law. You mean he isn't just the announcer???...my little 11 year old mind was blown...WTF?? Any illusion of reality was shattered in 89, as I live in New Jersey, and this was the state Vince first declared wrestling was predetermined to get it declared as entertainment and not a sport and it was all over the local news. Jeez, did any of us have dads who actually nutured our love of our fake sport? I’m having a cats in the cradle moment here.

I got my first idea that something was amiss when reading the WWF magazine back in 87 and it listed Vincent Kennedy McMahon Jr as the company owner in the annual publication/circulation statement that has published in the magazine by law. You mean he isn’t just the announcer???…my little 11 year old mind was blown…WTF??

Any illusion of reality was shattered in 89, as I live in New Jersey, and this was the state Vince first declared wrestling was predetermined to get it declared as entertainment and not a sport and it was all over the local news.

]]> By: Jabroniville2 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/24/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/comment-page-1/#comment-458611 Jabroniville2 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:49:28 +0000 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/#comment-458611 I was basically told it was fake by every kid on the playground, as well as my mom & dad (my dad was an old school Stampede fan, so probably knew when he saw the more cartoony shit WWF was putting on, if not earlier). So it was no big 'moment' or anything. I do recall being confused why Randy Savage would WILLINGLY quit wrestling forever after losing to the Warrior at WrestleMania VII, though (I figured "who would give up their job?"), so it was a slow climb still. I was basically told it was fake by every kid on the playground, as well as my mom & dad (my dad was an old school Stampede fan, so probably knew when he saw the more cartoony shit WWF was putting on, if not earlier). So it was no big ‘moment’ or anything. I do recall being confused why Randy Savage would WILLINGLY quit wrestling forever after losing to the Warrior at WrestleMania VII, though (I figured “who would give up their job?”), so it was a slow climb still.

]]> By: cactusland2 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/24/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/comment-page-1/#comment-458610 cactusland2 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:37:21 +0000 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/#comment-458610 For me it was in 2003 when I started reading Scott Keith. I went on "hiatus" from wrestling in 1994 when I was 11, then randomly one day heard about Royal Rumble 2003 and decided to order it. I loved it-- it was fun like all Rumbles I remembered from the past, had a great wrestling match in Benoit/Angle, and was the first PPV I ever watched live. Then I got on the internets and started reading about what had been going on in the "business" the past 10 years, mostly from Keith's essays and rants. I started hanging around 411mania, reading everyone's bitching and over-analyzing everything, and by Armageddon I was pretty much a burnt-out smarky bastard myself. For me it was in 2003 when I started reading Scott Keith.

I went on “hiatus” from wrestling in 1994 when I was 11, then randomly one day heard about Royal Rumble 2003 and decided to order it. I loved it– it was fun like all Rumbles I remembered from the past, had a great wrestling match in Benoit/Angle, and was the first PPV I ever watched live.

Then I got on the internets and started reading about what had been going on in the “business” the past 10 years, mostly from Keith’s essays and rants. I started hanging around 411mania, reading everyone’s bitching and over-analyzing everything, and by Armageddon I was pretty much a burnt-out smarky bastard myself.

]]> By: whitefish http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/24/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/comment-page-1/#comment-458608 whitefish Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:06:26 +0000 http://www.rspwfaq.com/2008/10/the-day-the-kayfabe-died/#comment-458608 Kayfabe died for me with the Stossel report on 20/20 and the discovery that Vince McMahon owned the WWF through what was then called, Titan Sports. There was also a report by WOR, Channel 9 in '85 where they tape recorded a match on a Pro Wrestling USA Card between Backlund and Zybysko where they are mapping out sports during the match (which I was at and the card shown in the original Highlander film). Kayfabe died for me with the Stossel report on 20/20 and the discovery that Vince McMahon owned the WWF through what was then called, Titan Sports. There was also a report by WOR, Channel 9 in ‘85 where they tape recorded a match on a Pro Wrestling USA Card between Backlund and Zybysko where they are mapping out sports during the match (which I was at and the card shown in the original Highlander film).

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