The SmarK Rant for WWE No Mercy 2008
- Live from Portland, OR
- Your hosts are Todd Grisham, Tazz, JR, Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler…as the Beaver.
ECW World title: Matt Hardy v. Mark Henry
Henry gives Matt a clean break to start and then powers him down and pounds him with the clubbing forearms and knees in the corner. He misses a short charge and Matt starts kicking at the knee, but Henry clotheslines him and then levels him with a forearm shot off a charge. Matt goes after the knee again, but takes it to the floor and gets tossed into the stairs like a fly. Back in, Henry fights him off again and puts him down with a big boot for two. Mark goes up with a stomp from the middle rope, and that gets two. We hit the chinlock, but Matt fights up and then promptly walks into a bearhug. Matt keeps fighting, however, and gets the Side Effect for two. Henry powers out of the Twist of Fate and adds a big splash, but he hurts the knee and only gets two. Matt comes back one last time, hitting the knee to escape the powerslam, and finishes with the Twist of Fate at 8:06. Quite decent with the David v. Goliath story working like it generally always does when done properly. **1/2
Meanwhile, HHH and Jeff Hardy do a joint interview backstage, as HHH texts his vote for himself (but he's rooting for Jeff) and he wants Jeff to be at his best so he can beat the best.
Women's title: Beth Phoenix v. Candice Michelle
Candice dropkicks the knee for two and takes her down for a rollup for two. Low dropkick gets two. Enzuigiri (and not a pretty one) and Candice fires away in the corner, but Beth picks her up in a fireman's carry and rams her into the corner. Candice kicks at the knee in response, but Beth sends her shoulder into the post for two. She works the arm on the mat, thankfully switching from a cross-armbreaker to a wristlock. Seriously, it's 2008, we've all seen UFC and we know that if you really do that move, you break the arm. Candice fights up with a dropkick for two, but Beth blocks a legsweep and faceplants her. Beth goes up and gets knocked down, and Candice dropkicks her for two, as Santino saves. Candice makes the mistake of going after him, and Beth clobbers her, but Glamarella has another argument and Candice gets two. Beth kills her dead with the chickenwing-bomb at 4:50, however. Another notch on the Moolah-Meter. Not embarrassingly bad like the Tramp Stamp side of the division, and that's enough these days, but Candice looked like an amateur out there next to Beth with her half-assed dropkicks and shrinking muscle tone. **
Meanwhile, Kane once again is angry and very confused. Apparently we all wear metaphorical masks or something.
Mask v. Nothing: Rey Mysterio v. Kane
Wouldn't it be fair to make Kane put his mask back on if he loses? Rey wisely dodges Kane to start and dropkicks him to the floor, but walks into the big boot. Rey comes back with a seated dropkick and springboards in with another dropkick, but a clothesline blocks the 619 attempt. Rey tries a rana and gets blocked, but he pulls Kane to the floor anyway and follows with a pescado. Kane catches him and dumps him into the front row. Rey meets the post and they head back in so that Kane can dole out more punishment. We hit the chinlock and Kane boots him down again for two. He follows with a backbreaker submission, but Rey slugs out of it and reverses a sideslam into an inverted DDT. Cole describes it as "swashbuckling", which is one of the reasons why no one likes him. Kane hammers him in the corner, but Rey comes out with a moonsault press and slugs back. He kicks Kane down and comes off with the top with a guillotine legdrop for two. Kane catches him again with a sideslam for two and looks to finish with the chokeslam, but Rey escapes it and springboards at him with some messed up DDT-like move. Splash gets two. Rey goes up and gets caught coming down, and Kane gets two. Kane misses a boot in the corner and Rey 619's the leg to put Kane on the floor, but flies into a chair for the DQ at 10:03. Did Kane think the ref wouldn't see it? Really good crowd heat for what seemed like it could have been another typical big v. little match, thanks to Rey bumping like crazy. ***
Meanwhile, MVP demands to see Vickie, but can't get past Big Show. Show's "I've been focusing on the Undertaker, but if you keep bothering me I'm gonna focus on YOU" is a pretty good heel line.
So MVP joins us, pleading his case to the crowd for his mistreatment on Smackdown. Randy Orton interrupts and he's not particularly impressed with MVP's skills. Rhodes & Dibiase & Manu join him and the crowd just gets on Cody right away with a "boring" chant, rattling him. Apparently the threesome is against Orton right now before they do the obvious "swerve" and have them join the Age of Orton. I like Manu's Big Show Lite look better than his crazy samoan look. MVP tries to get on board with the second generation, but they show disdain for anyone without a famous father. MVP decides to leave, but now CM Punk and Kofi Kingston join us and ask for his help in brawling with the New Kids. And they punk him by sending him in first and leaving him to take a beating, but then join him and clean house themselves. Did I switch over to RAW or something?
JBL v. Batista
They slug it out to start and JBL loses that one, and Batista puts him down with a clothesline. Boot to the head gets two. Batista slugs away in the corner, but runs into a boot. JBL sets up for the Clothesline from New York, but Batista blocks him with a spear and JBL rolls out to recover. Back in, JBL slugs him off the apron and they brawl outside and back in. JBL gets two and takes over. Neckbreaker and elbow gets two. JBL hits the chinlock, but Batista suplexes out and wins a slugfest, then puts him down with another clothesline. Corner clothesline follows, into the running powerslam. JBL blocks a spear with a big boot, but Batista is in no mood and finishes with the spinebuster and Batista bomb at 5:15. No screwing around there. I had no beef with this. **1/2 JBL, from his position counting the lights on the mat, asks for the microphone and complains about the bad week he's been having. And then he gets his heat back by cutting a hilarious promo about how great the bailout is for him because it costs everyone $10,000 per household and he gets to keep his penthouse apartment and millions of dollars. I sense some subtle political commentary from the WWE. And then it gets sillier as Cryme Tyme and Sgt. Slaughter steal his limo in the back.
Big Show v. Undertaker
JR, apparently trying to one-up Michael Cole, calls Big Show "cyclopean", apparently having missed out on Show having both eyes. Slugfest to start and Show clotheslines UT to the floor, but gets necksnapped. They brawl on the floor and Show gives him some good shots to the ribs and sends him into the railing, but Taker comes back and puts Show into the post. Taker pounds him on the floor and adds the guillotine legdrop, and they head back in. Taker hits him with a corner clothesline, but gets mowed down by a clothesline. Show throws hands in the corner, again working on the ribs, then drops an elbow for two. Back to the ribs and he adds a legsweep for two. Taker fights from his knees, but Show knees him in the head to put him down and pounds away. Taker fights up, but Show headbutts him down again…and goes up? Pump splash misses and Taker fires back again and hits the flying clothesline. Legdrop gets two. Old school ropewalk, but Show catches him with the chokeslam for two. Taker ducks the knockout punch and tries his own chokeslam, but Show counters that, so Taker DDTs him instead for two. Kudos to Show for taking that bump. Taker slugs him down in the corner, but Show takes the turnbuckle off and rams Taker into it, and knocks him out cold with three punches at 10:03. Now there's a finish you don't see every day. Unless you're Kimbo Slice. This was quite good, as if you're gonna have two 300 pound guys out there, might as well have them beat the hell out of each other. ***1/2 Show's ending rabbit punch is why MMA refs would stop the match BEFORE he got a chance to hurt his opponent. As a WRESTLING finish, though, it worked.
Smackdown World title: HHH v. Jeff Hardy
HHH gives the handshake and then clobbers him from behind, getting two. He starts working on the arm, but Jeff flips out of it and takes him down with the headlock. HHH wins the battle for a hiptoss, but Hardy takes him down with another headlock and hangs onto that. HHH elbows him down to break, but Hardy gets a flying headscissors and puts the champ on the floor with a clothesline. He follows with a dive, but HHH directs him into the floor instead. Back in, Jeff slingshots in with a legdrop for two and it's back to the headlock on the mat. HHH backdrops him to the apron to escape, but Jeff tries a sunset flip, which HHH blocks with a Pedigree attempt in an "Ooooooh" moment from the crowd. Jeff backdrops out of it, but then tries a flip dive and splats on the floor. HHH lets the count run and then tosses Jeff back in, for two. Backbreaker and he drops elbows on the back, for two. Jeff fights up, but a facecrusher gets two. HHH drops the knee for two. He works Jeff over in the corner, but runs into a boot, then recovers with the abdominal stretch as he goes old school heel. And he even uses the ropes, but gets caught. So he switches to the sleeper, but Jeff takes him down to escape and then follows with a mule kick for two. Seated dropkick gets two. He whips HHH right to the floor and this time gets his tope con hilo, as JR is all about the baseball analogies tonight. Back in, a clothesline from the middle rope gets two. Twist of Fate is reversed into a clothesline, however, and HHH gets two. Hardy charges and hits elbow, but HHH comes off the middle and gets caught, allowing Jeff to hit a gourdbuster for two. Jeff tries the Whisper in the Wind, but HHH powers him down for two in kind of an ugly spot. MAIN EVENT SPINEBUSTER and HHH sets up to finish, but Jeff reverses the Pedigree into a catapult, and Whisper in the Wind gets two. Mule kick in the corner and Jeff goes up, but he whiffs on the swanton and it's KICK WHAM…Twist of Fate? Wow, not many people get to reverse the Pedigree. Jeff pulls off that miracle and hits the swanton, but HHH cradles for the pin to retain at 17:00. Ooooh, so close. See, kids, never leave your shoulders down. I was way into this one and thought they were gonna pull the trigger there for a second. ****
RAW World title, ladder match: Chris Jericho v. Shawn Michaels
Shawn overpowers Jericho and teases the superkick, but Jericho evades him. Shawn charges and hits the post, and Jericho hits a northern lights suplex, which leads into a pinfall reversal sequence in a match without pinfalls. Jericho clotheslines him to the apron and puts him on the floor with a nasty springboard shoulderblock. He tries whipping Shawn into the ladder, but Shawn climbs it and uses the momentum to hit a cross-body. Jericho sends him into the post again and charges with the ladder, forcing Shawn to counter with a drop toehold. Shawn gets his own ladder, but Jericho takes him down with the Walls of Jericho and brings the ladder into the ring. Shawn see-saws it into his face, however, and sets it up for the first climb attempt, as Jericho now appears to be down one tooth. Hey, that's BLOOD. Someone alert Vince. Jericho pulls him down and catapults him, but Shawn grabs the ladder and climbs again, so Jericho brings the ladder down. Crude but effective. Jericho beats on Shawn with the ladder, then whips him into the corner, but Shawn reverses him into the ladder and brings it down on his knee. Shawn puts the ladder in the corner and adds a kneecrusher onto it, then goes to the figure-four to really kill the knee. Jericho reverses out and then kicks the ladder into Shawn's face for good measure, then catapults him under the ladder. And then we get an incredibly brutal spot, with Shawn's head getting sandwiched in the ladder, and Jericho climbs. Shawn stops him, so Jericho sets up the ladder in the corner and then gets reversed into it. They brawl to the floor and Jericho gets the worst of it, as Shawn drops ladders on him and BRINGS THE HATRED~! Sportsmanship is nice, but sometimes you just need a good vendetta, ya know?
Shawn puts Jericho on the table and climbs a monster ladder, but Jericho follows and you know it's gonna be good. And indeed, it's a backdrop suplex through the table, taking both of them out. Shawn emerges first from the wreckage and sets up with a ladder on the top rope, but Jericho recovers and dropkicks it back at him. They fight on top and Jericho climbs the ladder and sets up for a superplex, but Shawn pushes the ladder over to escape, leaving it on top of Jericho. Flying elbow onto the ladder follows, and the laws of physics say that's a dumb move. Luckily Shawn suffers less damage and he sets up for the superkick, but Jericho counters by smashing him in the face with a ladder. I love this match. So Jericho also gets goofy by Lionsaulting Shawn under a ladder, which again hurts him worse. Jericho sets up the ladder and pins Shawn underneath, but Shawn has the POWER and pushes the ladder over, sending Jericho to the floor as a result. This seems to leave things free and clear for Shawn to win, but Jericho pushes the ladder over just as Shawn starts undoing the belt. Jericho takes his turn at climbing now, but Shawn follows him up for the slugfest on the ladder, which results in Jericho falling back and getting hung up in the rungs. Lance Cade runs in to save his meal ticket, and Shawn stops to go after him with a superkick and they battle for the belt on top. The belt is freed and Shawn hammers away in desperation, but Jericho headbutts him and falls off with the belt to win at 22:22. That finish with both guys having a tug-of-war for the belt was something else, man. Match of the year thus far, there I said it. ****3/4 And what I loved was that they didn't try to out-crazy the previous ladder spots, but merely took the existing ones and made them more bitter and hateful. More blood (or at least intentional blood) would have been nice, too, but it didn't hinder the match for me like it did with the Edge-UT Hell In a Cell deal. The Cade run-in really wasn't needed, though, and that deducts the 1/4* if you're playing along at home.
So yeah, the last three matches comprised basically half the show's running time, which makes this one an overwhelming thumbs up. Especially surprising given how lackluster the show looked on paper, but the big matches delivered and I'm happy.
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“Not embarrassingly bad like the Tramp Stamp side of the division, and that’s enough these days, but Candice looked like an amateur out there next to Beth with her half-assed dropkicks and shrinking muscle tone. **”
The women’s division has gotten really odd lately as some of the poorer workers having been giving the two champions better matches recently than the generally better women.
This Candice-Beth match was better than the Mickie-Beth match on Raw in September (where Beth nearly injured Mickie twice) and was better than the Michelle-Beth from last Friday’s Smackdown, even though Candice is the worst of the four.
Even more bizzare, Michelle and Maryse had two matches recently on Smackdown and ECW that were better than Michelle’s matches with Beth and Natalya.
On a side note, No Mercy was much better than expected, and I’m glad I decided to order at the last minute
The ladder match kicked 12 different kinds of ass.
I liked the tug of war spot, something I aint seen before. Unless your name is John Morrison its pretty hard to come up with new spots in a ladder match, but that was one. I also liked where Jericho used the ring post as a pivot to smash the ladder in HBK’s face. Final cool previously unseen spot (for me at least) was when they teased a superplex off the ladder against the turnbuckle. That would have ben a cool move had they done it, but I guess it can be done in MITB and look even better, especially if they put a ladder on the mat aswell.
I really didnt believe Jeff Hardy would win but when he hit that Twist of Fate at the end, for a second I also believed. That’s when I love watching wrestling, when I doubt my own judgement and start to mark out, even if it is a tease. Sadly, the way Jeff went for the pin, it was obvious as soon as he left his arm round HHHs head what was gonna happen next.
Agreed here on the tug of war spot, very different and inventive. I was thinking for a moment that the ladder might tip over and leave them hanging just by their grip on the two ends of the leather. I’m sure that would be damn near impossible to pull off without either guy losing his grip, but if they could have that would have been one memorable visual.
Scott, when did this obsession of yours with blood begin? As I recall, you gave 5 stars to the bloodless Owen vs Bret cage match, so it would seem that at that time it wasn’t a necessary condition for a perfect match (a perfect *cage* match no less). So why the bloodlust now…too much MMA in your diet?
I think it has more to do with the HBK/Y2J feud. The vendetta is intensely personal and heated, and could use more red stuff to get that across.
Exactly what I was thinking. I don’t get the constant need for extreme violence. Although granted, if ever a feud deserved it, it’s this one.
I’ve always thought the same thing about people who seem to get extra enjoyment out of matches when they’re especially stiff. I don’t get it. Stiff does not equal better. Wrestling isn’t about two guys actually pounding the crap out of each other. It’s about them working together. Once they start roughing each other up for real, the “artform” is lost.
Maybe it’s me but I prefer matches when they don’t blade. That way, if you DO see any blood, you know they REALLY got roughed up and it makes it easier to buy into the intensity of the match. I’m probably the minority in that view, though.
Awesome ppv for once.
I almost thought they flubbed away some of the heat from Michaels-Jericho by having them meet in a silly tag team on the preceding Raw; but boy was I wrong. I’ve watched the match twice now and all I can say is…can they just feud for the next year?? I don’t want it to end.
Big ups to Big Show for actually looking motivated as well.
I thought the spot where Jericho fell from the ladder to the floor was absolutely sick. How he didn’t blow out a knee I’ll never know. It seemed incredibly risky considering they just had Orton mess up his shoulder being tossed to the floor from the ring without a ladder. Has anyone ever made a drop like that before without having tables or other guys to break their fall?
A better way to run the Cade interference would be for him to run down just then and catch Jericho as he was falling, then have Adamle or security force him to the back and let the two men finish the match. The interference just as the face is about to grab the belt has become so predictable, it really didn’t seem to belong in this match, or this feud.
I haven’t seen the match yet, but I do remember – a few years ago – Christian (pretty sure it was him) working an over-the-top rope spot into his matches where he’d land back-first on the mats outside the ring. I’m glad he retired that.
That was WrestleMania 17 and it wasn’t on purpose. It was during the spot where all six guys were on the ladders and they all fell down. The other five landed on the ropes…Christian missed the ropes and went all the way to floor. It was sick as hell and I can’t believe he got up to take a bulldog from the ring through a table from Spike Dudley.
Nah, there was someone who did it regularly around 2004/05-ish. I’m sure it was Christian, though now Randy Orton’s name is coming to mind for some reason.
But I remember the spot you were talking about, and it was indeed sick.
Yeah, I’ve seen Christian do the “fall from a big ladder, miss everything completely and splat on the floor” spot at least twice. He’s the guy you’re thinking of.
I really enjoyed this PPV, but I was underwhelmed by the Ladder Match. And the finish to Big Show/Undertaker sucked. All month Cole blabbered about how “Big Show knocked out UT at Unforgiven!” Now all month we’ll hear, “Big Show knocked out UT at No Mercy!” Yeah, we get it. Show has lethal hands, can we move on now?
I hate when they do talkie spots during a PPV. That whole segment was pointless, I thought and should’ve been saved for Raw. It reminded me of that horrible Pizza Eating contest last year between Hardy and MVP. How about a tag team title match Vince? Scott’s right, Orton will swerve everyone (nobody) and join the “New Kids”. But the really question is, Will Batista join them, too?
HHH/Hardy was fucking sweet. Like watching Flair/Steamboat or Flair/Sting (Yeah, I went there!). You could tell Trips was envoking Ric during spots. I’d agree on the four star assessment.
So yeah, the Ladder Match was fun, I just was expecting more I guess. They didn’t tell much of a story. Hbk worked the kneee for a minute, Jericho worked the ribs for a minute, they did the vicious spots, Cade gets paid and they go home. When they both grabbed the title I thought I was watching TNA for a second and thought they’d do a “tie” or something stupid. Thank God they didn’t. Four stars, but no more.
BTW, “swashbuckling”??!?!? What the fuck Cole?
I kind of had a feeling Triple H & Hardy would be good because the end of the Elimination Chamber way back in February was super hot. Jeff actually kicked out of the pedigree, the crowd was going bonkers and, again, I actually believed. I think at some point that Jeff has to go over Triple H cleanly for the belt.
It’s building and building and they can make a huge star out of Jeff…I just don’t know if the WWE trusts him enough to do so.
I don’t think Orton and the 2nd Generation thing is playing out to SWERVE~ at all. To me, it comes across as Orton genuinely not being impressed by them and their bragging for such lowly accomplishments. If anything, it’s reverse psychology to get them to achieve more and reach their potential. The 2nd Generation, on the other hand, are absolutely looking for Randy’s approval and are taking offense to the fact that Randy doesn’t seem to care.
It’s not swerve for the sake of swerve. It’s subtle, but linear storytelling.
Oh, and it’s fucking fantastic at that.
It’s really fucking creepy how Jericho now looks like Chris Benoit.
I completely agree. I was thinking the same thing about Jericho’s tooth and the Benoit connection. I wonder if he’ll get it fixed.
Also, on the blood issue, I think the ladder match was good enough without it as you could see the real anguish on Shawn (although his selling is always so good) as well as Jericho’s busted face (who really isnt a big blade guy, although he may have had a legendary one when he was in Smokey Mountain…I can’t remember).
If ANY match deserved blood this year, it was Edge vs. Taker in the Cell. That match was BRUTAL by WWE’s standards and it seemed odd that despite the punishment those two laid into each other, there was no crimson masks.
I’m sure he has, but for some reason, I can’t recall Edge ever blading.
Can you?
Well, I think he bladed at Wrestlemania 22 vs Mick Foley. If not, he did go through a flaming table and thumbtacks….
Jericho had a pretty good one vs. JBL at this year’s Rumble too.
I know they’re going for TV PG or whatever, but don’t you think it’s more irresponsible to show violence without the end consequences? I would think that a kid is less apt imitate what they see on tv and smack someone in the face with a steel chair or a ladder if they knew they were going to lay the other person’s head wide open like a cantaloupe.
I was thinking the same exact thing the other day. Blood might freak a few people out, but it’s what happens when two people beat the living shit out of each other. Not showing it sends a completely different message.
Cole’s been referring to Mysterio as swashbuckling for at least a few weeks.
I didn’t understand it the first time and I don’t understand it now. I’ve never even heard the term used to describe anything other than a pirate.
A “swashbuckler” is really nothing more than an adventurer or daredevil, and while the term is usually applied to those who wield swords, “swashbuckling” is still an appropriate adjective for Rey Rey.
Yeah, I looked it up. A flamboyant adventurer usually a swordsman.
Cole is flamboyant.
“I’m sure he has, but for some reason, I can’t recall Edge ever blading.
Can you?”
—If you’re talking about the HIAC match at Summerslam, the answer is no. However, Edge has bladed before and is quite good at getting the crimson flowing. Check out his steel cage match v. Angle from Smackdown in 2002, the steel cage match vs. Matt Hardy at Unforgiven ‘05, the hardcore match vs. Foley at Wrestlemania 22, and his streetfight with Shawn Michaels from RAW in early ‘07.
“you could see the real anguish on Shawn (although his selling is always so good) as well as Jericho’s busted face (who really isnt a big blade guy, although he may have had a legendary one when he was in Smokey Mountain…I can’t remember)”
- Jericho has bladed a few times on WWE TV, but the match you are thinking of happened at SMW’s Night of the Legends supercard in mid 1994. I am not sure if Jericho slipped with the blade (he was wrestling with a broken arm, btw), but he certainly tapped a vein that left not only himself, but both of the Heavenly Bodies and referee Mark Curtis covered in his plasma. While it played into the booking of having Curtis attempt to stop the match due to Jericho’s physical state, it seemed that Jericho might have gone a tad too far.
Prior to the Eddie Guerrero blade job at Judgement Day ‘04, Jericho’s blading was the most horrific I had ever seen.
You can see that match (and others) on Smokey Mountain Wrestling’s Night of the Legends DVD.
The Mass Transit one is the thing that made me rethink blading. Really, we can do without it, as (for my money) it only contributes to the marginalisation of the sport(s entertainment).
You don’t see Sly Stallone rip his forehead open for authenticity, so I’m not sure why people feel that Chris Jericho has to. We know that the violence is simulated (don’t we?)
First Mass Transit was not about blading it was about New Jack being an Ahole and wanting to screw with the inexperienced guy.
With MMA being more and more popular and many MMA matches having blood (obviously hard way) I think WWE HAS to blade on occasion to keep us suspending disbelief. Nobody’s died from blading. If the worst you get is some scare tissue on your forehead and it’s voluntary then just do it.
Yes, but the very point that the inexperienced guy was willing to let a headcase like New Jack (he begged him, actually) was because that’s what he thought was required to ‘put on a show’. Not learn some moves, not go to the gym and get fit, but slice up your forhead. For mine, it represented all that was bad about that ‘extreme’ brand of wrestling. The early(ish) IWF reaction seemed to take some delight in that. That’s what made me rethink it, in the sense of “christ, there are a lot of bloodthirsty ghouls out there”.
MMA is MMA, ‘rasslin is ‘rasslin, one is real, one is simulated. I don’t think that the majority of punters need to see blood to ‘get’ the show. My favourite bouts rarely had blood.
I think that at this point, blading is the genie that can’t be put back in the bottle. Yeah, it’s probably not necessary in this day and age and excessive bloodletting is dangerous for a number of reasons, but people have come to expect it under certain circumstances and a heated, violent feud like UT vs. Edge or HBK vs. Y2J without the blood just doesn’t work as well.
As with everything else, it’s just a matter of the right time and the right place. And the right person, for that matter. I’d trust HBK or UT to know when, where and how much to blade more than I’d trust, say, Lance Cade. Or New Jack.
If they could come up with a better simulated alternative to blading, I’d be all for it. Corn syrup blood looks fine, but lacks the sustained flow (and visceral reaction) that actual blading draws, so it would be a rough transition to make. But for hygiene and cosmetic reasons, it would be beneficial.
“She works the arm on the mat, thankfully switching from a cross-armbreaker to a wristlock. Seriously, it’s 2008, we’ve all seen UFC and we know that if you really do that move, you break the arm.”
I totally disagree on that. Wrestling and MMA are NOT the same and wrestling moves were never real (at least since the nineties). if you complain about that, then better complain about the next time someone gets up and continues after a piledriver because we all know if you really do that move, chances are you break the victims’ neck.