Comments on: The Dark Knight

By: Voth22

Voth22 — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:37:35 +0000

First off just a great movie! Both Begins and TDK sit atop the list of my favorite comic book movies of all time. And in both cases I went in not expecting much as I was never a huge Batman fan for Begins and I just assumed TDK could never live up to original. But God what great scripts. I was constantly surprised, enthralled and entertained and there was not one time I thought to myself, “I would have done something else.”
My wife who is not a comic fan and who tends to lose interest in any movie that is over two hours long loved every second of it.
I really hope that the combination of the movie quality and the morbid curiosity over Ledger’s death combine to help it outperform the badly overrated Spiderman movies.
Just everything I would want out of a movie.

And, adding to the conversation about the 3rd. Someone suggested using “The Cult” as source material. That is some pretty heavy stuff, but I think Nolan could pull it off.
But, I think that after the Joker (who is both Batman’s top villain and a performance that will always be marked with tragedy.) the smart road would be to not have a single opponent try and carry the film..
But, I would have a series of Batman’s B villains (Man Bat, Croc, The Ventriloquist, Clay Face… and whoever) headlined by the Riddler all causing havoc as Gothem descends in to a city that is caused by and dependent on Batman. You can really push one of the central focuses of the Batman mythos- the idea that while he is the protector of the city he is also the reason the villains are so much more than common criminals. It could all lead to the creation of Arkham Asylum proper (and if you are willing to recast the Joker at that point, Arkham Asylum (the story) would make a great plot.)

Whatever they decide to do, I am there.

I know this was long but one last thought- If they can make Iron Man and The Dark Knight, smart movies that stayed largely true to the source material and made a boatload of money- why do we still have to endure shit like the Fantastic Four and (shudder) Superman Returns?

By: jmfabianorpl

jmfabianorpl — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:21:28 +0000

I know, which is why I wonder if the DeVito one is so entrenched in people’s minds. One of the few positive changes in the animation styles going from B:TAS to TNBA (Fox to WB) was when Bruce Timm redid the Burtonesque design, and added the Iceberg Lounge stuff.

By: hitmanclark

hitmanclark — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:57:21 +0000

He pretty clearly doesn’t understand the character anyway.

By: 009

009 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:38:08 +0000

If he did that, he’d be no better than the Joker. There’s a difference between pinning the blame on himself than pinning the blame on someone who’s innocent of the crime besides him.

If you don’t understand that, then you don’t understand Batman.

By: Roland G

Roland G — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:22:55 +0000

I would be for them doing “The Cult”. Batman in hiding gets abducted by Deacon Blackfire – kills the innocent guy, thinking he is Joker. It would work in the Nolan universe.

By: Bobby

Bobby — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:54:19 +0000

Kevin Spacey as a reinvented Mr. Freeze.

Would love it.

By: Darryl The Hitman

Darryl The Hitman — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:45:14 +0000

I doubt anyone could follow Ledger or would want to but a few candidates that come to my mind are James Spader, Michael Madsen, and Lane Davies. Maybe Steve Buscemi, too.

By: hitmanclark

hitmanclark — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:33:38 +0000

I can’t believe people are not getting the point of the ending. It really boggles my mind.

Bruce is doing it both to protect the “white knight” of Gotham AND to plant fear of him in the criminals.

Hell, three quarters of the damn movie is about how nobody fears Batman anymore because they know he won’t kill them! Now, if he’s going around murdering dirty cops, what hope does a petty thief have?

By: hsb3

hsb3 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:15:10 +0000

I think you’re both wrong.

1, I think a bunch of actors could still play the Joker or even the Heath-Joker. They’re actors, it’s what they do. I don’t know if they’d want lots of scenes with the guy though or even bother for a third installment.

2, the next bad guy will be….

Anyone, and a bunch of them. The story’s main bad guy is the Mob. The next movie should therefore be about the last of the mob dying out and being replaced by super villains. Super Villains who all have a gimmick because they ALL want to top the Joker. I think Scarecrow foreshadows this.

That’s why I think Joker would be mentioned in reference but not even used. You could have anyone from a Poison Ivy to a Penguin since all criminals would want to dress up and fill the void of the jailed Joker and dying Mob.

I could see Ra Gul returning. We never did see him dead. I could see a surprise return with him saying, “Told you so” to Bruce.

By: mlsq42

mlsq42 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:59:18 +0000

The Penguin, the REAL one, is a money-obsessed, highly intelligent Mobster with a beak nose. No more, no less. How the hell can that not work in this version? You have the majority of the mob locked up awaiting trial, Penguin immediately rockets to power and then works WITH the police to catch Batman, forcing Gordon to publicly support him but try and work against him.

And you can just have Catwoman as a background thing, have things go missing at just the wrong time…