From Bad to Awful…
….I can’t even bear to say it.
http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=20000
I know Scott will post something later, but I know it’s tough for him to do anything this second.
I am also sadden by the loss of the women who really drew me to wrestling. Dying a week apart.
Damn it
Oh my God…
I just saw this and was skipping Raw due the absolute crassness of the Mr McMahon angle. My fiance was just saying it’s going to be worse when it happens for real.
It isn’t just losing Chris and Nancy, but his son too… Part of a family is gone and that just hurts beyond any words to express.
I only knew Nancy as Woman from the Benoit/Sullivan angle in WCW but she was truly a presence in an era where the valet/manager was losing it’s impact in wresting.
Chris… what does one say? I wish I could say I had been watching him since ECW, but I can’t. Just from WCW to the modern day. Such a gifted wrestler…
I’m just in total shock… I will be praying for all their souls tonight and that they will find peace in the Heavens above.
God bless you Chris, Nancy and their son. May God cradle you in His loving arms.
God may Bless Chris Benoit…but if what the police are now saying is true, he deserves to be damned to Hell.
IF it’s true… wait for the autopsy reports.
That being said… all I can say is truly: “Why, God? Why this?”
Remember when wrestling used to be fun? Just like when Owen died, my whole belief system, my whole ideals of “entertainment” has now gone down the drain again. Is wrestling worth the time, money, and energy we all devote to? Right now, I say no. Maybe I am just grieving, but wrestling was supposed to be an escape from the things I hated so much about life. It wasn’t supposed to be throwing things back into us. Not like this. I’ll watch ECW and Smackdown! just to see the tributes but… I wanted to be entertained not insulted. Not made fun of. Not hurt as badly as I do now. As we all do now. None of us deserve this. Especially those who have lost their lives. Is pro wrestling really worth devoting the time that we devote?
This business needs to shut down for good now. The definition of insanity is doing something over and over again expecting a different result. We “Wrestling Fans” are just going to be hurt over and over again. It makes no sense to me right now, to…support…it…
Or maybe I am just so hurt and devastated right now that nothing makes sense anymore…
Benoit’s title win at Wrestlemania 20 was my favourite moment as an adult wrestling fan. He seemed to be a decent, down-to-earth human being away from the ring too, and someone you were always thrilled to see do well.
The mind boggles as to what may have happened here, but i just hope the Vince McMahon “death” angle is scrapped with immediate effect.
Since I know a lot of this thread will be the just praise of Benoit, I just want to say that Woman was a pioneer in wrestling and one of my favorite people to watch as she was able to enhance any talent she was put with without overshadowing them.
Also I’m not sure how old Daniel was but I’m assuming he was very young and as someone with a young son that is the part the hits home most with me.
I popped in Hard Knocks after I heard it. His son was around 10 at the time I’d say, and looked just like him. It’s sinking in on me now, and I’m getting chills and welling up. From seeing him at Clash 22 in Milwaukee until he got the title he was my guy. Damn, damn damn.
I agree. In my opinion Woman is on the short list of best managers in history, and gets my personal vote as best female manager/valet ever (no dissrepect intended to Sherri….this is so depressing).
I can’t even seem to form words right now. Although I didn’t know the man personally, he was definitely one of the best wrestlers I have ever seen put on a pair of boots. My thoughts and prayers go to him and his family and I hope the best for his children.
Rest in peace, Benoit. You will be missed.
WHAT THE FUCK?!
This is too weird. The first time I saw Benoit was Clash of the Champions when he teamed with Beef Wellington in the WCW tag team title tournament. Now both have passed away in the same week.
I cant put into words how great Benoit was. He was the greatest wrestler this side of Bret Hart and brought an unmatched intensity every time he was in the ring. Eddie’s death really broke my heart and Benoit’s is no different.
As for the Vince angle, I agree with Random, this must get scrapped ASAP. It was bad enough to have Sherri die after the start and now this…
I usually scoff when people say they’re emotionally devastated by the death of someone they’ve never met, but now I’m one of those people. Chris Benoit was my favorite wrestler, bar none. I feel like I just got punched in the gut.
I was thinking the same thing, I was just checking some stuff before I made dinner…now I suddenly have no appitite
Same here.
Dear God, I never thought I’d feel the utter horror of learning Owen died ever again.
But I am now.
RIP Chris.
Holy shit. He was my favourite wrestler. I didn’t expect him to go at all…he always had a reputation for being one of the cleanest guys. Not into the steroids and drugs like other wrestlers.
And the fact that his family was found dead to…jesus…I don’t even want to say it, but I hope this wasn’t some sort of insane murder-suicide thing.
Well, the whole Vince being fake dead thing definitely has to be over now.
Incidentally, both he and Eddie Guerrero died on/near the day they were supposed to become World Champion on their respective brand.
Maybe its because I don’t want to believe that this is true, but I want to see it on AP or Reuters or something OTHER than a wrestling site.
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/benoitdead
If the WWE continue with the stupid “Who killed Mr. McMahon?” angle I would not watch the WWE for good.
You would think McMahon will have to be on TV tonight for this. This angle has to die now and move on. This angle was stupid to begin with and is disrespectful to those wrestlers that have passed and have had tribute shows dedicated to them.
When Owen died, I was in 8th grade. It’s kind of pathetic really, but it was the first time anyone I actually “Cared” about died. Of course I was young and it didn’t bother me too much. At that point I didn’t know as much about wrestling as I do now.
When Eddie Died, well, that hit me kind of hard. I had met him at a house show, back when he was with Chyna, and he was a great guy. It hit me hard. I dunno why.
And now Benoit. Benoit was my favorite. I became a fan during WCW Vs NWO Revenge. Silly really, I know. But I liked the cross face, I liked the head butt. When he came to the WWF I was so excited. When he won the title I was estatic. Not just because of the match, but, it’s silly, but, it was because I was proud. Proud of him, of the WWF, giving the guy who deserves the ball most the chance to run with it. And now I want to cry. Or hit something.
We let these people into our lives, every day. We watch wrestling. We go on 411mania, read scott’s blog. We bitch about Triple H and Umaga, because we want the people who deserve it to get what they earn. I don’t think a lot of people will admit it, but we love these guys. Especially the Benoit’s the Eddie’s the Hart’s the Bulldog’s because they always put out the best. And they personify the everyman. Underdogs. You root for them. It’s always “I hope Benoit Wins” not, “I hope the other guy loses” because…I dunno.
I’m a wrestling fan. And inbetween the limo explosions, hand birth, and crappy story lines. People like Chris Benoit brought us back to our TV’s, to Our Computers, to Our childhoods. Where we believed that grown men could fly, and the men in that ring were invincible.
I guess childhood has to die sometime.
I am in complete shock. I’m still shaking over an hour after I read that. With him leaving last the night the chances of the two being unrelated are a trillion to one. He was one of my favorites, along with god knows how many more. Thinking about wrestling now should be the furthest thing from my mind, but the end of WM XX went from being one of the happiest moments in most of our fandom’s, to purhaps the saddest. Wrestling will never be the same.
The end of WrestleMania XX now became a moment of inmortality. A great moment because at least they got their moment at the top of the industry.
Amen.
I hate to think it, but the poster who said that him leaving and them being found dead have to be related. The odds of them not being related are astronomical…
This is from Atlanta TV:
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/13567642/detail.html?rss=atl&psp=news
Holy Shit!!! All 3 of them found at the same time? Obviously there is some crazy shit going on…thats the end of the Mr McMahon storyline I guess…I hope…
rip
It’s sad very sad news. I’m in shock because not only Benoit but his family was found dead. I liked Chris Benoit and he was also one of my favorite wrestlers. I always thought he could have been the guy to carry the company in the low moments of the industry ala Bret Hart in the 90’s. He deserved more than what he got, but at least he got his moment to shine in the biggest stage of them all, WrestleMania. My condolences to his family, friends and all of us fans of this great wrestler.
Is RAW canceled for tonight?
http://www.caller.com/news/2007/jun/25/wwe-cancels-show-american-bank-center/
I hope this is not true and just gossip. From PWTorch:
UPDATE: Daniel was their only child together. He was about seven years old. Says one friend: “Chris and Nancy were known to have a volatile relationship, but their son was the saving grace for both of them.”
Benoit has another son from his previous marriage who is in Canada at this time.
UPDATE: Benoit was scheduled to wrestle in Beaumont, Tex., but WWE personnel were told he missed the show due to a family member being sick. He was last seen by WWE personnel at last week’s TV tapings.
“I felt a great disturbance… as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.”
Godspeed, Chris.
My God. I saw him in person just over a week ago on Father’s day, with my son, here in Columbus, Georgia. It’s just tragic.
Pardon my language.
YOU GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!
This has to be some fucking sick Vince McMahon joke! I might have teased the guy and called him names, but he was a solid worker and sometimes I liked him too. THIS CAN’T BE REAL GOD DAMN IT.
See Vince — KARMA CAN BITE YOU IN THE ASS! GOD FUCKING DAMN. Please don’t ban me Scott, I just can’t fucking believe it!
I hate to say it, but do you think Benoit did it at his own hand?
Tears are actually coming down my face as i type this….i can’t believe this shit. Benoit has long been my favorite wrestler (underline that word) going back to the days in ECW. This is very sad regardless of the circumstances around whatever comes out.
RIP Crippler.
Damn this sucks. Really no words! I think this is truly the day that wrestling died!
Really tragic, with his son and wife dying as well. But how many more of these deaths can we stomach?
Scott Keith said it best: Benoit’s story was one of the greatest in professional wrestling. He overcame politics, overcame the worst aspects of “sport entertainment” in wrestling, and still managed to be the top main event guy in the end, all without compromising his morals. He was a fantastic technical wrestler, in an age where that style of wrestling isn’t as respected or used as often as it was years ago. His mates with Booker, Bret, 2 cold scorpio, Shawn, Tripple H, and Jericho were unforgettable. His match at 2003 and 2004 Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania XX were the best moments in wrestling.
And yet, I’m amazed how he managed to be humble to the very end. He was not only a great wrestler, but also a great human being.
My condolences to Benoit’s family, Nancy’s family ( who was also a great talent herself) and Daniel.
Goodbye Benoit.
This probably doesn’t have to do anything with the dead of Benoit but the WWE needs to do something for health of this guys. They are humans and they are putting their bodies on the line for what? 300 days a year? They should limit the days and have a more flexible schedule so they can have a better health and have more time with their families.
Benoit was my favorite, going back to the days when I was a teenager and used to bitch with my friends about how he had never won a singles title in WCW.
I can honestly say I’m in denial. I usually get bummed out when wrestlers die, but a lot of times I’m not really surprised. I don’t feel anything right now… I just can’t comprehend it.
Benoit was never a favorite of mine, yet I’m still crying. From every account I ever read, Benoit was a phenomenal human being. Wrestling, Hell…life needs someone like him. This absolutely sucks!
Terrible news, do you think it has anything to do with the death of Beef Wellington? Weren’t he and Benoit really close?
And now the Vince death angle is gonna bite WWE in the ass because they are in the position where they have to say “Ok Vince isn’t REALLY dead, but Chris Benoit died, and were serious…..no really, we mean it this time!”
I’m sure most fans will know, internet news seems to spread fast these days and when they see the wrestlers tearing up it should hit home, but still!
I honestly don’t know what to say, I just felt the need to come on and say something. There’s nothing, I guess, that I could say that hasn’t already been said. I didn’t know him, or follow him as long as Scott, but I’m still deeply pained to hear this news. I’m still numb.
R.I.P. Chris Benoit
Just read that Raw is cancelled and every one was sent home. That is the right thing to do instead of having everyone mourn in public something that should be private.
Benoit was always my favorite, but I haven’t watched wrestling, except for the occasional show, in several years. When I heard this, it just wouldn’t sink in. Chris Benoit can’t be dead. When Eddie died, I was shocked, and it hurt, but it was something we all knew would happen eventually; guys with lives like Eddie’s just don’t live that long, and Eddie probably got more years out of that life than most people would have. But with Benoit, tonight, I was absolutely in disbelieving shock all night.
Until just now, when John Cena began his tribute. Ten seconds of silence, then “I firmly believe that this is the most difficult thing I’ve ever had to do.” For some reason, now I understand. Now it’s sinking in. Now it hurts.
Rest in peace, Chris.
the police are saying that no one was shot, and that it was a brand new home. Im guessing that it was carbon monoxide poisoning
I feel like I’m going to puke. I don’t know what to say. I don’t even want to speculate on what happened, but it’s obviously not going to be good. What the hell? This is worse than Eddie dying, this doesn’t even make sense. His eight-year old son is dead as well? My God.
Simple carbon monoxide poisoning? That would even be more tragic if that was the case. Who truly knows, we have so little information at this time.
Given the nature of the internet rumors, guesses, and speculation will be flying for a while. It’s pointless to try to guess from afar about what happened. Let the police and medical investigators do their job and the truth will eventually be revealed.
Im just saying it because there was a report that said his son was coughing up blood and thats why he wasn’t coming to the shows this past weekend, and now they are all dead. You are right though, just best to wait until the authorities sort things out…
Fox News is reporting: “Lt. Tommy Pope said the three were found at their home about 2:30 p.m., and the deparment was investigating the deaths as a homicide. Pope said results of autopsies were expected Tuesday”. Just terrible.
I had no idea until I just tuned into Raw eight minutes ago. I hadn’t been to any of the usual websites today, so I feel like I just got shot with a cannonball. Absolutely devastating.
And I agree that this McMahon dead angle had better be dropped now. How could they possibly continue it now in good conscience?
RIP Chris, Nancy, and Daniel.
Oh my God. So many people are hitting the pwtorch website that it cannot even be accessed now…as if we needed another indication that this is the biggest story in pro wrestling history.
Yeah, the IWC may as well shut down, now.
This is from the Atlanta Journal Constitution: “A well-known professional wrestler and his family were found dead inside their house in Fayette County Monday afternoon. Authorities confirmed that Chris Benoit, his wife Nancy and their 7-year-old son, Daniel, were found dead at the home on Quarters and Redwine roads in Fayetteville about 4 p.m. Officials were investigating the deaths as a murder-suicide. Benoit, a 40-year-old Canadian native maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the now-defunct World Championship Wrestling. Most recently, Benoit fought as part of the World Wrestling Entertainment organization. WWE canceled its live show in Corpus Christi Monday night, and its broadcast of “Raw” on the USA Network was a three-hour retrospective on Benoit’s career. “Obviously, all sorts of speculation are running rampant but I have talked to so many people and nobody really knows [whether the couple was having marital troubles],” said Bryan Alvarez, who runs Figurefour Weekly, a wrestling newsletter and Web site, from Linwood, Washington. Benoit was scheduled to appear in a pay-per-view title match Sunday night, but was a no-show due to a “family emergency,” the WWE said during the broadcast. Benoit’s wife, Nancy, managed several wrestlers and went by the stage name, “Woman.”
They met when her then-husband drew up a script that had them involved in a relationship as part of an ongoing storyline on World Championship Wrestling. Soon after, the two became romantically involved in real life and married, Alvarez said.
Benoit has two other children from a prior relationship.”
Murder-suicide now? My jaw dropped actually reading this. I don’t even know what to say.
That’s the first time I’ve heard it referred to as a possible murder-suicide from a reputable source, this is getting even worse. I hate to even speculate about what happened, especially with a seven-year old boy there.
I really hope this is not the case.
Nice to see Steph talking about Benoit is all about HER, HER, HER!!! That bitch makes me sick!
Yeah, I was thinking that too but didn’t want to say anything because there were more important matters at hand.
Yeah, you’re right - but I am just so shocked how self-asorbed she is with herself.
She’s a McMahon.
Not even Vince is that self absorbed with himself.
He composed himself pretty well tonight and I’m glad he dealt with this and the angle he was currently involved in.
Good Lord, the man just died, and she was speaking from the heart about how HE had touched her life. Thats the way most eulogies go, you discuss the deceased by putting into context how they affected YOUR life.
I’m not going to argue I’m just going to say that it would’ve been nice to see her pay respect to Benoit and not how Benoit felt about her life with Hunter.
Yeah, but really, is there a blueprint for how to grieve? I mean that was shot probably an hour after they found out that they were dead. This isn’t like Steph going on a rant about the gov’t attacking her family right after 9-11. I am willing to give her a pass on this one.
I agree. I’m not a big fan of Steph, but I did not find her comments to be offensive or self-centered. She was describing her favorite memories of Chris.
Give her a break. It’s not like she had spent the weekend writing what she’d say. That’s probably a good memory she thought of when thinking of Chris, and something unique she could share about him. I’m not going to criticize her for it.
As morbid as this sounds I really do hope it was carbon monoxide poisoning. A murder-suicide is just too much and I can’t stand to think of the Benoit family in such a way.
I mean I always knew that one day I wouldn’t get to watch Benoit wrestle anymore but I never thought it would be like this.
I was just thinking that, too, about the CO poisoning. There’s nothing really tragic about CO poisoning, and it’s a painless way to go. CO poisoning is still sad, but, if nothing else, it does nothing to damage our ideals of, in this case, the Benoit family.
I’d be goddamned if it was a murder-suicide, because it’s not something that speaks to Benoit’s personality, at all. I certainly never knew the guy, but there’s never been so much as a typo written about him having any kind of personality issues. He was always quiet and reserved, but unlike, say, the Va. Tech guy, he was never described as being distant or cold, just shy.
Don’t assume anything, they said they are investigating it as a homicide, they didn’t say murder/suicide. Besides, it isn’t always the guy who snaps, see Hartman, Brynn
Oh, I’m not assuming that. The first thing I thought when I heard the news is that someone armed probably tried to break into the house and Benoit, being Benoit, wasn’t going to have any of that, and paid for it.
With money not a problem, what would possibly justify the killing of an entire family regardless of it being a “relatively painless” CO poisoning?
Even if it was CO poisoning, that’s still a murder-suicide to me.
I meant CO poisoning, as in, someone forgot to change the batteries in the CO detector.
According to Wade Keller, Chris Benoit suffocated his wife and son, possibly a day apart, before hanging himself on Monday.
Wrestlemania 20 was my highpoint as a wrestling fan. Benoit was my favorite wrestler and seemed like a high quality person. This sucks and i think i might be done with watching wrestling now. RIP Chris Benoit, you’ll be missed by us all.
Same… he was really the only reason why I watched wrestling anymore.
It speaks so much to his greatness that he was able to get over through sheer skill alone. I’ve never seen that before.
I regret that I never got to see him live now. I was at the Richmond show last week, but Benoit was in ECW at that point.
I used to joke about Benoit being a no talent, but the guy was very talented and one of the last matches I really noticed was one of the MVP matches at WrestleMania. That man was a mircale worker . . . I am hoping that neither Nancy or Chris did harm to each other. We’ll wait and see . . .
They were coming to Abilene, Texas (where I live) here pretty soon and Benoit was scheduled to be there. I’d give anything now to be able to see him wrestle in person.
I know, I’ve seen him wrestle live once on an episode of Nitro before he went to WWF. It was the one where he and Perry Saturn won the tag belts. I was probably 14-15 at the time. He was awesome to watch!
I drove three hours to Salisbury, Maryland to watch him make Triple H tap out in a World Title match. My only regret is that my camera batteries were dead and I didn’t have time to get new ones.
I realize there have been a few rumors about this trajedy, so I wanted to share this post from 1wrestling.com, which should clear up a few things:
“Details remain very sketchy regarding the tragic news today that Chris Benoit and his family were found dead at their Atlanta area home.
Benoit had been scheduled to appear on a WWE house show on Saturday. Sources tell us Benoit called to first say he would be taking a later flight, and then to say he would not be attending the house show due to a family illness. According to one source, Benoit said both his wife and son were throwing up blood and he needed to stay to take care of them.
At last night’s Vengeance pay-per-view, Benoit was replaced in his match by Johnny Nitro.
No other details are available at this time and police are on the scene at the Benoit residence investigating.”
This points to the carbon monoxide theory, though when I first heard the story I actually considered the unthinkable. Thankfully (and I use that term quite loosely here) that doesn’t seem to be the case.
I have watched wrestling for 20+ years, and I’m not ashamed to admit that wrestling has made me cry three times. Once in joy at the end of WrestleMania XX when Chris won the title and shared that moment with Eddie. The second when Eddie died, and finally tonight. When that graphic came up I dropped to my knees in tears. God bless you Chris you will be with us always!!!
I got to see his final match live in Charlotte against Burke and I remember my friends and I joking about how I was going to leave them stranded in Charlotte if Benoit lost because I was leaving the show. It’s nice to remember that in light of today’s events…remembering how much Benoit as a performer meant to me and, from what I can tell, all of you.
I am still shivering. This has to be a sick joke. Not Benoit. Not his family. God bless you, Chris.
Updated from Fox News. Hopefully, this is not the case. “Pro wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife and 7-year-old son were found slain Monday at their Fayetteville home, authorities said.
Detective Bo Turner told television station WAGA that the case was being investigated as a murder-suicide, but said that could not be confirmed until the evidence was examined by a crime lab.
WAGA reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and son over the weekend, and then himself sometime Monday.
A concerned neighbor called police. The bodies were found in three different rooms.
The lead investigator, Sheriff’s Lt. Tommy Pope, told The Associated Press that the deaths were being investigated as homicide, and said the cause of death awaited autopsy results on Tuesday.
Pope said the three were found about 2:30 p.m., but he would release no other details about the deaths at the house in a subdivision near White Water Country Club.
World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that Benoit, 40, his wife, Nancy, and son, who was named Daniel, were found dead, but also had no other details.
I hope this is wrong, but I’m afraid it’s probably not. I don’t know what to say.
Im with you, I doubt that its wrong…
This sucks more than anything that has ever sucked before
Honestly, he was one of those guys that you could point to as a reason to be proud to be a wrestling fan, and now, IF IF IF this is true, he’s an embodiement of anything and everything that could ever be wrong with it.
But I hope it’s wrong.
This has gone from Bad to Awful to Un-fucking-thinkable.
WWE.com is even reporting the worst case scenario now. I pray it’s not the case, but if it is, I just don’t know…
I’m just stunned. I mean, every death is tragic, but they’re not always shocking, you know? But this is looking like an uber-tragedy on the level of the Von Erichs.
And while prayers are being offered up, I’m sure Kevin Sullivan could use some added strength right now. If the investigator as reported by WAGA turns out to be correct, can you imagine anything worse for the ex?
God, i hope this is not true. that’s all i can say to myself. Benoit always seemed to be crazy about his wife and his children.
I hope this new info is wrong, but it appears everything points to it being correct. I’m a bit disgusted if I just spent 3 hours crying my eyes out over a man who killed his wife and child. As someone said earlier, the night begins with everyone looking at Chris as someone to base your life aroud and show what is right about things and now he could enbody everything that is wrong.